Is Crosby now an 80 point player?

[Grifter3511]

With the Pens clinching 2nd in the Metro, there is no reason to ice Crosby especially that it will take 5 goals from Kucherov to beat him for the Rocket.

So with that in mind the last 3 seasons
88 in 74
85 in 78
84 in 77

I know the league has changed and all, but is he now basically an 80 point player?

With his current linemates? Probably

 

[Rufus]

Let's make a big deal out of this.

 

[Rectify]

Uhhhh no.

88 in 74 = 98 pt pace
85 in 78 = 89 pt pace
84 in 77 = 89 pt pace

3 yr avg = 92. That would make him a 90+ pt player.

Yea but math is hard so it's easier just to say 80.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

Crosby's producing at a 97 point pace this season. He produced at roughly a 87 point pace last season (100+ point pace after Sullivan was hired), and 89 point pace the prior year.

OP asks if Crosby is an 80 point player at this point.

Thread might have more validity if the question was whether he was a 90 point player nowadays. Because his production is well above what the OP is asking.

 

[I Hate Blake Coleman]

Uhhhh no.

88 in 74 = 98 pt pace
85 in 78 = 89 pt pace
84 in 77 = 89 pt pace

3 yr avg = 92. That would make him a 90+ pt player.

But he didn't score 90+

 

[Shrimper]

With his current linemates? Probably

With Guentzel and Sheary?

No way. With Kunitz? Yes.

Sheary is 3rd in Points per 60 and Guentzel 6th!

 

[illpucks]

Well, no.

He's scored more than 80 points and will likely hit 90 again this season. How can you say someone is an 80 point player when they're getting 85+?

It makes no sense.

80 point player = 80-89 pts
70 point player = 70-79 pts

etc

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

With his current linemates? Probably

If Sid plays next season the entire year with Guentzel and Sheary (ie. none of the three misses any more than about 5 games), I will put any money that Crosby flirts with a 100 point season. He may not quite reach it, but he'll only miss out by ~5 points.

His current linemates are actually pretty damn good. It was that month or so with Kunitz killing the line that saw his totals drop this year. So as long as Kunitz isn't flanking Crosby next year, I'd be absolutely shocked if he was "just an 80 point player".

 

[Shrimper]

80 point player = 80-89 pts
70 point player = 70-79 pts

etc

Except he has scored 88 points so far this season and is on pace for 90+

How does that make him an 80 point player?

 

[illpucks]

Except he has scored 88 points so far this season and is on pace for 90+

How does that make him an 80 point player?

Pace doesn't mean anything

Last 3 seasons are all 80, 80. 80 range.

Stamkos was on pace for 96 points. Let's call Stamkos a 95+ point player this season. Deal?

 

[Community]

With the Pens clinching 2nd in the Metro, there is no reason to ice Crosby especially that it will take 5 goals from Kucherov to beat him for the Rocket.

So with that in mind the last 3 seasons
88 in 74
85 in 78
84 in 77

I know the league has changed and all, but is he now basically an 80 point player?

The lowest pace he's had in the last three seasons you posted was 89 points (85 in 78), yet you think he's an 80 point player?

90pt player that still has 100pt season potential, but he (and his team) have to stay healthy in order for it to happen.

 

[Hisch13r]

He's a 90 point two way star who makes guys like sheary and guentzel into stars

him malkin mcdavid are top 3

Stop. No he isn't. He's slightly above average defensively. His d game has gotten so overrated

 

[kk87]

But he didn't score 90+

Soooooooooo does that mean he was a 30 point player in 2011-12? Hard to believe a supposed elite player was producing bottom six number while in his prime!!!

 

[Grifter3511]

With Guentzel and Sheary?

No way. With Kunitz? Yes.

Sheary is 3rd in Points per 60 and Guentzel 6th!

Granted I don't watch Penguins games to say this with any validity, but is it not very possible that their pp/60 are that high because of Crosby?

 

[Community]

Pace doesn't mean anything

Last 3 seasons are all 80, 80. 80 range.

Stamkos was on pace for 96 points. Let's call Stamkos a 95+ point player this season. Deal?

75+ game sample size vs. like 15? C'mon, you can't be serious

If you really want to go ppg or total points, is Stammer closer to a 96pt player or a 20pt player?

 

[Shrimper]

Pace doesn't mean anything

Last 3 seasons are all 80, 80. 80 range.

Stamkos was on pace for 96 points. Let's call Stamkos a 95+ point player this season. Deal?

Crosby's last three seasons (inc. this season) were 84, 85 and 88. That's more than 80...

The difference between your Stamkos point and Crosby is that Crosby will hit 90 points in the remaining two games. Even if you ignore the 6 he missed in October. And Stamkos has only played, what, 15 games?

Stamkos hasn't hit 90 points in ages.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

Granted I don't watch Penguins games to say this with any validity, but is it not very possible that their pp/60 are that high because of Crosby?

I'll list the linemates of Crosby's in recent seasons who've put up similar even strength numbers as Guentzel and Sheary to show that it's all due to Crosby:




(Note: the list is blank)

 

[Community]

Crosby's last three seasons (inc. this season) were 84, 85 and 88. That's more than 80...

The difference between your Stamkos point and Crosby is that Crosby will hit 90 points in the remaining two games. Even if you ignore the 6 he missed in October. And Stamkos has only played, what, 15 games?

Stamkos isn't a 90 point player because has never hit that.

Well that's not true... He has hit 90+pts 3 times.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

No, I think the fact that he's finally finding chemistry with new players will be a bigger benefit next season. Sheary missed time and so did Guentzel after he became a permanent fixture with him. Imagine if McDavid lost Draisaitl for 20 games like Sheary. Points drop when your main fixture on your wing is suddenly not there.

Sid has never had wingers that think the game almost as close as he does, Guentzel definitely does and Sheary finds Sid almost as much as he does.

 

[illpucks]

Stamkos isn't a 90 point player because has never hit that.

Stamkos has 3 90 point seasons.

 

[Shrimper]

Well that's not true... He has hit 90+pts 3 times.

TIL. Thought he hadn't

But he hasn't hit that in a while.

 

[Lebowski]

Pace doesn't mean anything

Last 3 seasons are all 80, 80. 80 range.

Stamkos was on pace for 96 points. Let's call Stamkos a 95+ point player this season. Deal?

Calling Stamkos a 95+ point player is probably still closer to the truth than calling him a 20 points player.

 

[Bear of Bad News]

80 point player = 80-89 pts
70 point player = 70-79 pts

etc

You're being intentionally misleading.

Closed.