If Mac T gets a 2C, then what do you do?

[dustrock]

At this point, though I'm frustrated as anyone, I do wonder how many of the problems with this lineup could have been solved with Mac T getting a suitable 2C to play reasonable minutes?

If he can get somebody decent to good, I'm not sure I'd make too many changes for the next 20 games.

Mods, feel free to merge this if you want, but I felt it could use its own thread.

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[missinthejets]

What is a #2C really going to change? Is it going to make the powerplay better? Is it going to magically get Perron and Pouliot and Purcell to start scoring goals? Is it going to fix the brain dead system the coach likes to try and run? You bring in a #2C and it's not going to change a damn thing about this team, it's still going to frustrate you as a fan because they can't win. For all the crapping on the guy people are doing Arcobello hasn't been that bad, oh sure a better centre might pot a couple more goals and maybe prevent a few more, but when you're regularly losing games by 3 goals or more it's not going to change the fortunes of this team enough. The coach and the system are the #1 problem for this team.

 

[hawks889]

At this point, though I'm frustrated as anyone, I do wonder how many of the problems with this lineup could have been solved with Mac T getting a suitable 2C to play reasonable minutes?

If he can get somebody decent to good, I'm not sure I'd make too many changes for the next 20 games.

Mods, feel free to merge this if you want, but I felt it could use its own thread.

Basically a What If scenario, sure it would have helped, but where was this outcry 4 months ago, now is not the opportune time to make trades, and the picks of free agents are slim to none,

 

[Faelko]

I'd like to grab another C just to get Draisaitl away from this **** show.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

I would wonder why he didn't do that in the offseason

 

[rboomercat90]

Basically a What If scenario, sure it would have helped, but where was this outcry 4 months ago, now is not the opportune time to make trades, and the picks of free agents are slim to none,

There was outcry over this back in July. A lot of it was muted by the Mactavish apologists who were calling our concerns "noise" and telling us to shut up because it was only July and Mac T still had months to fill out his roster. It would be looked after, there must be something on the way because he is just too smart to go into the season with this non existent center depth.

 

[ponokanocker]

The D is still the worst in the league so it will make minimal difference.

 

[Beerfish]

Question #1 what are we giving up to get a 2nd line C
Question #2 will this guy be a real 2nd line C or will he be a solution like our #1/#2 goalies?

 

[BowDangles]

A top pairing defence man and a 2C is a MUST at this point. The D is a dumpster fire and Leon isn't ready defensively to be a #2C right now, needs to be on the wing.

 

[Zaddy]

What is a #2C really going to change? Is it going to make the powerplay better? Is it going to magically get Perron and Pouliot and Purcell to start scoring goals? Is it going to fix the brain dead system the coach likes to try and run? You bring in a #2C and it's not going to change a damn thing about this team, it's still going to frustrate you as a fan because they can't win. For all the crapping on the guy people are doing Arcobello hasn't been that bad, oh sure a better centre might pot a couple more goals and maybe prevent a few more, but when you're regularly losing games by 3 goals or more it's not going to change the fortunes of this team enough. The coach and the system are the #1 problem for this team.

Exactly this.

A #2C isn't going to make much of a difference at this point. It's obvious this team has bigger issues than that. Clear coaches and management first. I honestly think our player material is good enough to be fighting for a playoff spot, 2C or not. There's no reason we should be this bad but for incompetent management/coaching.

 

[CornKicker]

an ideal trade would be to florida for brian campbell and scottie upshall.

both big contracts sure but Campbell automatically pushes every dman down a spot on the roster. he is a vet d man that can log big minutes. Upshall is automatically better than arcobello. defensively responsible and can hold down the #2 C spot until Leon is ready. Upshall can also play against top comp and reduce the amount we have to use Nuge vs #1's.

 

[Jumptheshark]

MAct has made it clear that he wont go get a legit second line center --LEon D is the man

 

[thadd]

Pray that Leon gets sent down. He needs to get stronger physically and he needs to get more comfortable shooting the puck. He can learn that down in the CHL with a ton of knowledge about how his game compares to the pro's and where he needs to improve.

 

[17Kurri]

If MacT gets a 2C, it won't make a lick of difference. The on ice culture just sucks too bad for a new guy to make a difference.

 

[I am the Liquor]

At this point, though I'm frustrated as anyone, I do wonder how many of the problems with this lineup could have been solved with Mac T getting a suitable 2C to play reasonable minutes?

If he can get somebody decent to good, I'm not sure I'd make too many changes for the next 20 games.

Mods, feel free to merge this if you want, but I felt it could use its own thread.

We need a top pairing defenseman. Maybe two. And a starting goaltender. Mact blew the one commodity he did have (cap space) this summer signing bottom pairing dmen and bottom six forwards. We cant take on any cap dumps, which pretty much leaves us with a whole lot a nuthin come trade deadline.

We have the worst gm in the nhl.

 

[LTIR]

If we can get a top pairing Dmen we wouldnt need to worry about C or maybe even goaltending.

 

[BoldNewLettuce]

Anyone want to watch every episode of oil change before the game?

 

[Slicknitty]

there definitely won't be any quick fix solutions to this dumpster fire. I'd bet nothing would change and that the newly acquired 2C would quickly be infected by the loser culture/management here.

 

[gqmixmaster]

we need top players that are men and not kids

Andrew Ladd, Eric Staal, or Coburn would be the type of players I would go after.

and Brodeur should be inquired with about being our goalie coach. Perhaps even have him share the backup role with scrivens and move fasth.

 

[T-Funk]

Too late. And a 2c won't make these pansies hit more.

 

[FunkyChicken]

If we get a legit second line center I'll go on a large drinking binge and possibly do a little praying because clearly the sky has fallen and the end is near.

 

[ToeMcDrag83]

What is a #2C really going to change? Is it going to make the powerplay better? Is it going to magically get Perron and Pouliot and Purcell to start scoring goals? Is it going to fix the brain dead system the coach likes to try and run? You bring in a #2C and it's not going to change a damn thing about this team, it's still going to frustrate you as a fan because they can't win. For all the crapping on the guy people are doing Arcobello hasn't been that bad, oh sure a better centre might pot a couple more goals and maybe prevent a few more, but when you're regularly losing games by 3 goals or more it's not going to change the fortunes of this team enough. The coach and the system are the #1 problem for this team.

Spot ****ing on. Great post.

 

[McDreamy]

Anyone want to watch every episode of oil change before the game?

It's just growing pains. I think we may have an pituitary gland disorder in the dressing room.

 

[WEMCHUD]

If this 2c is really fit, maybe eakins will strip ferrence of the C so he can finally be benched.

 

[chris11inter]

What is a #2C really going to change? Is it going to make the powerplay better? Is it going to magically get Perron and Pouliot and Purcell to start scoring goals? Is it going to fix the brain dead system the coach likes to try and run? You bring in a #2C and it's not going to change a damn thing about this team, it's still going to frustrate you as a fan because they can't win. For all the crapping on the guy people are doing Arcobello hasn't been that bad, oh sure a better centre might pot a couple more goals and maybe prevent a few more, but when you're regularly losing games by 3 goals or more it's not going to change the fortunes of this team enough. The coach and the system are the #1 problem for this team.

Whats it going to change? Not much I would agree.

But what it would do is hopefully throw some accountability on these players. Maybe the organization would show that this is unacceptable and some players may kickstart there game?

At this point, I would agree it wouldn't change a lot. But any positive change at this point is a change that needs to be done.

Even overpay in a trade of prospects or picks in order to get a legit 2nd line center. Ask the Islanders how that has worked for them.

There is no chance the Oilers would pay 2 2nd's and a 3rd for 1 year of Boychuck. This is the whole problem.