JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK
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I think it's time to talk about the Wild...
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Dr Jan Itor
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No, but it is starting to look like the mid season slump was a Mike Yeo thing. They began when he became the head coach and there is no sign of one yet this season. In the Yeo era the wheels would come off in mid December like clockwork, and they would become one of the worst teams in the league for a couple of months and then play lights out to get back to seventh or eighth seed. It happened every season. If it was going to happen this year it should have started two weeks ago.
He needs to play a little less well for the rest of the year so Las Vegas doesn't take him in the expansion draft. I'd rather they took Scandella.
Machinehead
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Wouldn't it depend. A defense that bled shots from the outside and didn't let any high scoring chances would inflate a save percentage wouldn't it ? I think dubnyk is a good goalie but isn't shot quantity what sways save percentage more.
struckbyaparkedcar
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There is a point where the guy getting shelled is just facing too much traffic to post good numbers, but goalies in good systems usually face more quality opportunities as a percentage of shots/chances faced.
Plus goalies are better when they get more work. But I bet you could figure out a good defensive system that inflated the goalies save percentage.
Does Montreal lead the league in scoring chances for and give up the least amount of scoring chances in the league also?
I like the Wild a lot, got a ton of respect for how these group of players work so cohesively well. Eric Staal is playing at a high level and has given this team a much needed boost. I expect Cliff Fletcher to make a deadline deal to improve this teams chances in the playoffs. Right now, I seriously think the Wild are the best team in the Central division and I got this team pegged for the Conference Finals this year.
Sorry, I meant Chuck. My bad. But I do expect him to make a deadline deal to enhance the Wild's chances this year. I'm rooting for them.
It all depends on what you consider good defense.
A good shot suppression defense does not inflate SV%. Minnesota does not have that. They allow 30.7 shots per game which is 20th in the league. If they allowed around 25 shots per game, Dubnyk's SV% would probably be lower.
I can tell you it's practically impossible for Quick to ever win the SV% title due to the fact the Kings are the best shot suppression team in the league.
Yes, we are coming to burn down your village.
Wild are doing it with quality depth, and what brilliance they have ( Suter, Dubnyk) is packaged in a very economical, mundane wrapping.
Almost all their young players ( Coyle, Nino, Zucker, Granlund, Dumba, Brodin, Folin, Graovac)have improved significantly this year, while the older players are still playing well with the exception of Parise. IF he starts to play like he normally does( and he was showing signs of that recently), and IF Dubnyk and Suter stay healthy, then the Wild have a chance to go far in the playoffs. The scoring depth and defensive depth is pretty impressive. The only thing that is average is the fourth line of Stewart, Graovac, and Gabriel, but they will ensure that the Wild won't be bullied like they have been in the past with the Blues, Ducks, Jets, etc..
Bottom line, though, is that the Metro is where all action is at, and CBJ deserves all the attention, not the Wild. I'm convinced that the Caps are going to be a force in the playoffs this year, NYR and MTL will challenge also. Can't believe that TB will spin their wheels forever, though FLA looks messed up.
Wild are doing it with quality depth, and what brilliance they have ( Suter, Dubnyk) is packaged in a very economical, mundane wrapping.
Almost all their young players ( Coyle, Nino, Zucker, Granlund, Dumba, Brodin, Folin, Graovac)have improved significantly this year, while the older players are still playing well with the exception of Parise. IF he starts to play like he normally does( and he was showing signs of that recently), and IF Dubnyk and Suter stay healthy, then the Wild have a chance to go far in the playoffs. The scoring depth and defensive depth is pretty impressive. The only thing that is average is the fourth line of Stewart, Graovac, and Gabriel, but they will ensure that the Wild won't be bullied like they have been in the past with the Blues, Ducks, Jets, etc..
Bottom line, though, is that the Metro is where all action is at, and CBJ deserves all the attention, not the Wild. I'm convinced that the Caps are going to be a force in the playoffs this year, NYR and MTL will challenge also. Can't believe that TB will spin their wheels forever, though FLA looks messed up.
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Yeah I've seen you talk about it before. But shot suppression vs low quality shots are different. Kings don't give up lots of shots but they give up hard ones when they do normally.
that is completely false, if you're talking about just shots against there is absolutely no correlation between shots against/60 and save percentage.
and also minnesota is indeed the best defensive team in the NHL
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Igor Shestyorkin
#26, the sickest of 'em all.
The other teams we beat on this streak were the Leafs, the Oilers (twice), Florida, St Louis, Arizona, Colorado and Nashville. So basically this streak didn't really count until the Habs and Rangers games because the only other good team we beat was St Louis (I guess you could count Nashville too because they are good at home and the game was in Nashville).
Igor Shestyorkin
#26, the sickest of 'em all.
I'm saying it isn't that impressive of a winning streak because we weren't beating good teams. Now that we are playing better teams and still winning it makes it a bit better.
Using shots against / 60 is flawed because it has a carryover effect from game to game which is what you want to avoid. You have to segregate each game.
A goalie who faces 25 shots per game is at more of a distinct disadvantage SV% wise than a goalie who faces 30 shots per game.
Just look at this table. It's all the starting goalies in the league for their careers. And please note that this is for complete games only (games where the goalie played 55 minutes or more). Also it doesn't include this year's stats. I made this in the offseason.
Frederick Andersen|.922|.928
Craig Anderson|.899|.928
Ben Bishop|.912|.937
Sergei Bobrovsky|.910|.930
Marc Andre Fleury|.909|.924
Jaroslav Halak|.915|.931
Braden Holtby|.920|.931
Jimmy Howard|.911|.929
Robin Lehner|.899|.930
Henrik Lundqvist|.916|.933
Roberto Luongo|.913|.932
Steve Mason|.901|.929
Carey Price|.910|.931
Tuukka Rask|.916|.936
Cory Schneider|.920|.938
Cam Ward|.899|.927
Jake Allen|.919|.928
Corey Crawford|.915|.933
Devan Dubnyk|.903|.928
Brian Elliott|.917|.932
John Gibson|.917|.937
Connor Hellebuyck|.902|.955
Martin Jones|.913|.940
Kari Lehtonen|.909|.923
Ryan Miller|.905|.928
Jonathan Quick|.912|.933
Pekka Rinne|.907|.938
Mike Smith|.902|.929
Cam Talbot|.915|.934
Semyon Varlamov|.906|.931
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