OppositeLocK
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I thought that was the Hulk? Doesn't the Thing look like rocks?
No, Hulk is the one that turns when he gets angry.
I thought that was the Hulk? Doesn't the Thing look like rocks?
So, just to be clear...
low skill goal:
high skill goal:
It's a modern deflection goal that 100% needed a lucky bounce vs a typical unscreened slapshot past a standup goalie of yesteryear. Literally the comparison from OP. My point is to show that Sid needed to do an incredible amount of skill work to get that goal in, and it was far from a fluke.Nobody here would describe the Crosby goal as a low skill goal. It doesn’t even fit the examples given by the OP. In fact, both of those goals aren’t common goals in their respective eras.
Weird choice.
It's a modern deflection goal that 100% needed a lucky bounce vs a typical unscreened slapshot past a standup goalie of yesteryear. Literally the comparison from OP. My point is to show that Sid needed to do an incredible amount of skill work to get that goal in, and it was far from a fluke.
That's what the small rink causes. Until NHL changes to wider rinks, this is what we'll see. Almost every goal is due to a bounce off someone's ass or shinpads because there just is no room for anyone to ever be out of position.
There are ways to shrink some of the pads (not all) and not make it any more dangerous. This isnt even debatable.Protection. It has nothing to do with stopping a puck but a lot to do we keeping goalies from getting injured. Ask Kevin Weeks about this.
Your percentage is obviously hyperbolic but a significant amount of deflection goals are intentional and require a lot of skill from the shooter/passer and hand-eye coordination from the goal scorer.
I think it's kind of cool that goaltending has gotten so good that it requires insane deflections to beat them.[/MEDIA]
Do you remember the Sochi Olympics? It was incredibly boring. Collapsing down the middle was even worse. And the pace of the game was slower.Agreed, perhaps make the ice bigger and goalies smaller
Bigger nets too
This is what I was trying to say in My Original Reply.You lost any credibility when you said there has been a decrease in offensive skill, also I would hardly say 90% of goals are from random deflections and most of those so called random deflection goals do take skill.
Creating deflections and rebounds within an offensive structure is a fluke?
I don't think it's an issue of goalies as much as it is an issue of interference going uncalled most of the time. Problem is that if you get rid of interference, the game gets faster and more guys end up concussed. As much as Oiler fans whine about McDavid's lack of calls, there is validity to it. It shouldn't be this easy to shut him down without taking a penalty by interfering with him through the neutral zone just enough to not get called. Guys like Holl have no business shutting him down 3 games in a row. It gets worse in the playoffs because the bar for legal interference goes higher. Regular season interference should be called more strictly and the playoffs should be at the strictness the regular season is now.
The modern game is all about creating as much congestion in front of the net as possible, then firing the puck in the general direction of the goalie and hoping it bounces off 6 different skaters before going in the net. 99.99% of the time, if the goalie can see the puck, he is going to stop the puck.
I guess a lot of modern fans grew up on this stuff, so they don’t know any different. But those who watched during the 80s and 90s, and have been paying attention, it’s sad to see not only the decrease in scoring and offensive skill, but the way the game has changed to accommodate how dominant goalies have become.
In watching highlights (if you want to call them that) damn near 90% of goals are scored off random deflections. How can you be impressed by what is essentially a goal scored by accident? It’s almost comical watching the goal scorer celebrate, as if he meant to have the puck bounce off one defenseman’s skate, off another defenseman’s stick, hit the popcorn vendor in the 12th row, bounce off the scoreboard and into the net.
I’d love to see a Gretzky, a Lemieux, or a Hull score by beating the goalie straight-up with an accurate shot or completing a beautiful play. Instead, nearly every goal is scored off a fluky deflection, or a rebound, or a goalie-screen.