Prospect Info: Hurricanes Prospect Info and Discussion - Part VII - Cliff Pu and other shit

[cptjeff]

I agree with analysis of Jordan's offensive game.

But if you put Jordan, or aho , or tt, or svech in an offensive faceoff out against the other team's 4th line, the tradeoff is your own 4th line has to take a harder matchup.

So if you have to micromanage the roster a la pastor Bill to ever prevent that, you're denying your better players the softer matchup.

Kruger was supposed to allow us to do this. Not only did he fail in that, he couldn't even handle standard 4th line comp. Tomas kaberle 2.0, darlings epic implosion took a lot of deserved odium from Kruger's part in the bust season.

Say what you will about Jay McClement, but he filled that role well. Our 4th line was terrible last season. A few years ago, we finally put together a decent fourth line with players suited to that role after years of just sticking offensive players who couldn't hack it in the NHL there. Now, we have a rotating cast of offensive failures and players who are suited to the 4th line role but are bad at it. So yay us.

 

[Joe McGrath]

Say what you will about Jay McClement, but he filled that role well. Our 4th line was terrible last season. A few years ago, we finally put together a decent fourth line with players suited to that role after years of just sticking offensive players who couldn't hack it in the NHL there. Now, we have a rotating cast of offensive failures and players who are suited to the 4th line role but are bad at it. So yay us.

Mcclement filled that role well for maybe 1 year. Then he fell off a cliff and was as bad as Krueger. Nordstrom being a complete zero offensively too wasnt helpful to either of those guys.

 

[MinJaBen]

Mcclement filled that role well for maybe 1 year. Then he fell off a cliff and was as bad as Krueger. Nordstrom being a complete zero offensively too wasnt helpful to either of those guys.

We should have resigned Nash. I’d have easily have paid the 2x2M that Boston gave him a couple of years ago.

 

[bluedevil58]

Do you remember when Nesty-Staal-Nordy was our 2nd line?

 

[Joe McGrath]

Do you remember when Nesty-Staal-Nordy was our 2nd line?

I do. All it proves is that Jordan Staal can shut down the opposition and chip in offensively with AHL talent on both wings.

 

[DaveG]

We should have resigned Nash. I’d have easily have paid the 2x2M that Boston gave him a couple of years ago.

Bingo. He had the game to be a #4 from the get-go, and instead of using him as a #4 when he didn't work out as a #3 we let him walk.

 

[Joe McGrath]

Bingo. He had the game to be a #4 from the get-go, and instead of using him as a #4 when he didn't work out as a #3 we let him walk.

If I recall correctly he was poor in the dot and the Francis/Peters regime had an unhealthy obsession with face off stats.

 

[DaveG]

If I recall correctly he was poor in the dot and the Francis/Peters regime had an unhealthy obsession with face off stats.

Yeah that definitely sounds right, and weird to say considering that aside from the guy's first 2 years here he was right around 50% in the dot.

 

[HisIceness]

Do you remember when Nesty-Staal-Nordy was our 2nd line?

I remember when Nesty and Nordy were useful players.

 

[cptjeff]

If I recall correctly he was poor in the dot and the Francis/Peters regime had an unhealthy obsession with face off stats.

Why does it matter if any defenseman can just toss Derek Ryan like a rag doll in OT and steal the puck if he wins the faceoff right before that happens?

 

[Joe McGrath]

Why does it matter if any defenseman can just toss Derek Ryan like a rag doll in OT and steal the puck if he wins the faceoff right before that happens?

I don’t know, ask Bill Peters.

 

[Joe McGrath]

I remember when Nesty and Nordy were useful players.

I remember when Tyler Kennedy and Matt Cooke were useful players. And when they stopped being useful players.

 

[My Special Purpose]

If I were to rank every skater in the league, Zykov would literally be at the bottom.

Hank's too good for this board.

 

[RodTheBawd]

Do you remember when Nesty-Staal-Nordy was our 2nd line?

They had a decent stretch of being one of the top lines in the NHL.

 

[tarheelhockey]

We’ve had so many players like that over the past few years. Useful underpaid grinders for half a season or so, then just completely worthless going forward.

 

[sheriff bart]

Something obviously happened between JR and Nash to cause him to be cast aside.

McClement was very good in his role for the 1st year. The 2nd he was a different, and much worse player.

 

[sheriff bart]

They had a decent stretch of being one of the top lines in the NHL.

I think Staal, Nordy, Nasalspray as a top NHL line is a bit of a stretch, but yeah, it shows how the talent has sucked on the roster

 

[Navin R Slavin]

Hank's too good for this board.

The whole internet, really.







(thx man)

 

[emptyNedder]

The whole internet, really.

Figuratively, the universe.

 

[NotOpie]

Figuratively, the universe.

The internet is the universe....or so my children tell me.

 

[sheriff bart]

If I were to rank every skater in the league, Zykov would literally be at the bottom.

Are you ranking them alphabetically? Cause if so...yeah, I guess so.

Capt Obvious here

 

[NotOpie]

Are you ranking them alphabetically? Cause if so...yeah, I guess so.

Capt Obvious here

He's just using the HANK system. Stuff of legends....

 

[AD Skinner]

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[MinJaBen]

Traverse City practices are underway in MI:

 

[WreckingCrew]

Traverse City practices are underway in MI:

Kuoknecasnikov?