Brock
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guitaraholic said:I am simply sick of people making assertions about players they've never seen. In short then I guess I'm sick of a lot of what goes on here at hfboards even though I personally love it here. Why can't you folks just admit you, like every other scout, GM, fan, etc., have absolutely zero idea where a VAST VAST majority of these kids are going to develo into?
I believe Stempniak to be the better player, as that is what his coach said. I am asking for people's opinions, WHO HAVE ACTUALLY SEEN THEM PLAY. Why are you folks so offended and upset by that idea? I've clearly hit a sore spot here at hfboards on this topic as you folks get so touchy when someone (correctly) points out that seeing as how most of us have never seen a vast majority of these kids play, our opinions are of no meaning whatsoever and, if we even thought about it for a minute, we'd not allow ourselves to develop opinions until we see them play. Yes, this is asking a lot... anyway, this is comical and meaningless and I'm wasting my time, alas. I simply wanted someone who has seen both of them play to offer their INFORMED opinion. What I got and continue to get are responses from people who wouldn't recognize Lee Stempniak if he bit them. Gee, that's ssoooooooo helpful..... typical, really, and I should have expected it. I've posted here for years, nothing much has changed.
Then why try to hide your opinion? Why not come right out and say that you believed Stempniak to be the better player + PROSPECT, and challenge others to prove you wrong.
People here would respect you much more if you simply stated your opinion and then backed it up with the fact that Dartmouth's coach had singled him out as his pick as the best player in the conference. Or that THN has picked Stempniak as their Hobey Baker contender. Or that Stempniak's skills are just as transferable to the NHL level, he just doesnt have Jessiman's size.
You simply picked the wrong angle to approach this from.
Another tip would be not to interfere with the thread while it is getting attention, and to bring the attention to yourself like you did in this thread. Let people generate responses on the issue at hand. You simply hijacked your own thread by trying to hammer home the same point everytime someone replied, whether it be with someone intelligent and useful or whether it was with something that went against your opinion. For someone who has come here for years, you should have realized this by now.
Why are you folks so offended and upset by that idea? I've clearly hit a sore spot here at hfboards on this topic as you folks get so touchy
It seems to be the other way around here, If I'm not mistaken, you seem to be the one who took this thread to heart first.
I am asking for people's opinions, WHO HAVE ACTUALLY SEEN THEM PLAY. Why are you folks so offended and upset by that idea? I've clearly hit a sore spot here at hfboards on this topic as you folks get so touchy when someone (correctly) points out that seeing as how most of us have never seen a vast majority of these kids play, our opinions are of no meaning whatsoever and, if we even thought about it for a minute, we'd not allow ourselves to develop opinions until we see them play.
If the opinions here of folks are so meaningless, why do you come here?
The reality is that unless you are truly a professional scout, its incredibly difficult to see every prospect in the world. This message board is a way to find out information, second hand information, about prospects that you havent personally seen play. You then take that sort through that information and form your own opinion of that player. Thats the reality of the "armchair" scouting community. I personally only really get to see players in the CHL and AHL play (and some europeans and College kids in the WJC's). For the rest I rely on the people of this site for information, whether it be on the more obscure prospects (like Stempniak for example, or maybe his conference rival Matt Moulson, which would be a better argument IMO, Stempniak vs Moulson, but thats another day) or more known european prospects. I trust the opinion of the more knowledgable posters here, and everyone has their own opinion on that.
Just try not to pick so many fights, and simply let the information come in, and you might be more successful in finding what you want here.