Rumor: Huberdeau for Malkin + 1st

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Can he ? I know his nmc starts next season but couldn't they trade him before July?

According to CapFriendly, his NMC doesn't start til the 19/20 season, so if they trade him before 7/1, he can't block it. The acquiring team can then choose not to honor it going forward. Would be a real kick in the gut to Huberdeau, but it's happened to others (Bogosian for one when traded to Buffalo).

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

I mean I understand that Huberdeau (or TT) being a huge piece to move. But it's not like futures or something is coming back. This is Malkin who even past 30 is still a top 10 center in the league.

I'm not advocating for the trade here, just think the values aren't far off.

Would prefer to move Trocheck instead of Huberdeau for Malkin and not even a fan of moving Trocheck tbh.
Malkin is an elite talent but he also has a ton of miles on that body and injuries have become an alarming concern. It's exciting as a Panthers fan to hear all these rumors but still prefer to chase the Russians and keep our core players together and see how they perform under Q.

 

[The Moose is Loose]

Would prefer to move Trocheck instead of Huberdeau for Malkin and not even a fan of moving Trocheck tbh.
Malkin is an elite talent but he also has a ton of miles on that body and injuries have become an alarming concern. It's exciting as a Panthers fan to hear all these rumors but still prefer to chase the Russians and keep our core players together and see how they perform under Q.

That makes sense. I think it's logical to want to keep Huberdeau over Trocheck. Not sure how Pittsburgh would feel about it.

Yeah, it's definitely an exciting time as a panthers fan.

 

[Gatorbait19]

I don’t see why either team does this.

Pitt would have no 2c and the Cats would have a logjam of centers.

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

Trocheck
Hoffman
Noel

For

Malkin
Simon

 

[DearDiary]

Could you imagine if the Pens retool and get a decade younger by moving Malkin and Kessel for a few core pieces under 28

Malkin - 32
Huberdeau - 26

Kessel - 31
Zucker - 27

Not seeing this decade younger thing. Plus the Pens window is only the next few years, which Malkin and Kessel will be better than their respective trade pieces

 

[pb1300]

This would be bad for Florida. Wouldnt surprise me. Tallon has made some bad deals.

Tallon has actually made some real good trades. Its some of his free agent signings that you have to question.

Petry + 15th overall for Huberdeau?

Cmon man, get real.

 

[Gentle Man]

Only thing breaking is Tallon's face with my damn fist.

Dont you f***ing dare

 

[Gentle Man]

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[Oddbob]

If Panarin is signed, yes Hoffman would likely be moved as Tallon has hinted at bringing in a vet D.
If Panarin isn't signed, I'd love to re-sign Hoffman, his shot is lethal and would love to see him and Tippett on the same PP one day.

1, 36 goal season, seems to suggest his shot isn't that lethal!

 

[Bure1096]

This would be bad for Florida. Wouldnt surprise me. Tallon has made some bad deals.

Name one trade that was bad.

 

[KIRK]

That a boy. Malkin’s a Penguin. If Kessel ends up leaving, Malkin goes nowhere.

Kessel going or not going has nothing to do with Malkin's status.

What Malkin WANTS is the only thing that governs his status.

With a full NTC, if he WANTS to stay, then he stays.

BUT, if he WANTS out, then as a practical matter he'll get out.

 

[ShaneinTpa]

Why would Florida even entertain this?? Huberdeau, less money and got 92 points AND a 1st for Malkin who's over 30 and almost declining??

You can take out the word almost

 

[KIRK]

Name one trade that was bad.

Some people will claim last season's deal with the Pens, but from Florida's perspective, that one added picks and cap space to be a big player come July 1.

 

[KIRK]

You can take out the word almost

Malkin has been 'declining' about a half dozen times in the last half dozen years. Not sure I'd stick a fork in him this time.

 

[Oddbob]

Name one trade that was bad.

Chicago Blackhawks acquire	Date	Florida Panthers acquire
Michael Frolik Alexander Salak [TBODY] [/TBODY]	February 10, 2011	Hugh Jessiman David Pacan Jack Skille [TBODY] [/TBODY]

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Washington Capitals acquire	Date	Florida Panthers acquire
Dennis Wideman [TBODY] [/TBODY]	February 28, 2011	Jake Hauswirth 2011 3rd round pick (#86-Jonathan Racine) [TBODY] [/TBODY]

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

 

[Rebels57]

Name one trade that was bad.

Umm, the Reilly Smith / Jonathan Marchessault to Vegas fiasco?

 

[FrolikFan67]

Malkin + 1st for huberdeau? I just hate how he misses so many games every season. If he wasn’t so injury prone all the time I’d be fine with it. But given his age and cap I’d rather huberdeau and the 1st isn’t that big of a deal

 

[TyroneShoelaces]

I'll preface this with stating that I don't mind trading Geno as a Pens fan in the right deal. However, I don't think this makes sense from either side.

I think it's bad value for the Pens giving up man who has brought so much to the organization and still delivers. A bad year and he's a PPG player. He's had one season in his entire career under a PPG. The guy is still a top 10 player in the league when healthy and actually focused. I, personally, certainly wouldn't add a first to him in any deal. Star power still sells.

I think it's bad value for Florida as well. Huberdeau is younger and on a better contract. I think he is a great player but he just had a career year so his value is undoubtedly inflated on here but he's obviously one hell of a player. Why get older? Why willing lose that magic Huberdeau and Barkov have? I guess Malkin helps sell tickets and maybe increases the chances of Panarin signing but, that doesn't seem enough to me.

Problems for the Pens would then be that they created a gaping hole at 2C. Have no one to play Huberdeau with since Guentzel is attached to Sid until they show they can't produce together anymore. Unless they make this deal then sign someone like Duchene, it doesn't help them.

If the Pens are trading Geno, it should be for multiple young pieces back. Not adding to him.

 

[Merc29]

I don’t see why Malkin would accept this trade. Going from being #2 behind Sid to being #2 behind Barkov?

Malkin is a creature of habit, and if he’s going to change that habit, it’s to be a #1 center. Otherwise, he’s probably happy with where he is

 

[Toby Flenderson]

Makes no sense.

1. Panthers wouldn’t trade Huberdeau
2. Pretty sure the Malkin rumors got squashed about a month ago, he’s staying in Pitt
3. Pitt would have no 2C, and at the moment Malkin is still the more dynamic player so this trade makes them worse
4. Malkin+1st? What the hell? Those two pieces should never be packed together

IF Malkin wants out and goes to Florida... Trocheck + Hoffman for Malkin would be my starting point, Pitt probably adds something small. Or Trocheck + Heponiemi + 13 OA for Malkin

 

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