Salary Cap: How will HuGo use our Cap Surplus Next Season?

[General Fanager]

Don't expect anything from Kent Snooze and Peewee Martin

He has completely changed the direction of the team and done several deals to dramatically improve its future.

What exactly is your problem with Hughes?

 

[WeThreeKings]

He has completely changed the direction of the team and done several deals to dramatically improve its future.

What exactly is your problem with Hughes?

I'm poking fun. I have loved almost everything Hughes has done so far.

 

[BLONG7]

Affection for your hometown doesn't trump affection for a great contract. Dubois is a really good player. We can afford to give him both. Let's not f*** this one up.

This summer we could add Dubois and draft two potential star forwards. In theory, our offence could be good to go.

We have to avoid the mistakes of other rebuilding teams who loaded up on forwards but neglected their D.

He is a RFA..............if we make a deal for him, I really don't want to give up the farm to get him...........I wonder how he will handle the pressure if there is a deal made?
I know he is not Drouin...............but it would still be pressure on him.............he is a player I would love to add, but not for what they would ask............it could end up being too much.

 

[Habs Halifax]

To be fair, I don't even think Gorton or Hughes know how they are going to spend their cap this summer. Of course Caufield gets a raise so that's easy to predict. After that, it's going to be very circumstantial as options present themselves.

He is a RFA..............if we make a deal for him, I really don't want to give up the farm to get him...........I wonder how he will handle the pressure if there is a deal made?
I know he is not Drouin...............but it would still be pressure on him.............he is a player I would love to add, but not for what they would ask............it could end up being too much.

Pressure for Dubois to come home won't be the same as what Drouin faced. Drouin came on a island by himself and Dubois is a better 200' player who joins a core of Suzuki, Caufield, Dach, Guhle, Slaf, Xhekaj. Combine that with a very deep pool and very high draft power for a few more years yet.

The time to come home fits for both the Habs and Dubois. Habs will offer something to acquire but we have leverage if Dubois tells everyone else he will explore his UFA options if they try to call about a sign/trade

 

[General Fanager]

I'm poking fun. I have loved almost everything Hughes has done so far.

good..,.

I was like what more can the guy do??????

 

[HuGo Burner Acc]

To be fair, I don't even think Gorton or Hughes know how they are going to spend their cap this summer. Of course Caufield gets a raise so that's easy to predict. After that, it's going to be very circumstantial as options present themselves.



Pressure for Dubois to come home won't be the same as what Drouin faced. Drouin came on a island by himself and Dubois is a better 200' player who joins a core of Suzuki, Caufield, Dach, Guhle, Slaf, Xhekaj. Combine that with a very deep pool and very high draft power for a few more years yet.

The time to come home fits for both the Habs and Dubois. Habs will offer something to acquire but we have leverage if Dubois tells everyone else he will explore his UFA options if they try to call about a sign/trade

I've always maintained the opinion that HuGo won't spend this offseason (besides Caufield ext). I believe 2024 offseason is the time to start fishing out money plus extending rfas. And getting a very high pick this year may even change their approach to cap saving if they have to contend with paying a Bedard, etc in three years time which will obviously take a lot. But MB contractually put this team in a bind for a few years when he made those dumb signings. I don't think HuGo is worrying about how to spend their limited cap. Instead I think their only concern is shredding cap for the next 1.5 years and obviously development of there pro and junior players

 

[Habs Halifax]

I've always maintained the opinion that HuGo won't spend this offseason (besides Caufield ext). I believe 2024 offseason is the time to start fishing out money plus extending rfas. And getting a very high pick this year may even change their approach to cap saving if they have to contend with paying a Bedard, etc in three years time which will obviously take a lot. But MB contractually put this team in a bind for a few years when he made those dumb signings. I don't think HuGo is worrying about how to spend their limited cap. Instead I think their only concern is shredding cap for the next 1.5 years and obviously development of there pro and junior players

I think they will evaluate things month/month and season/season. I don't think they have a locked in plan to sign or not to sign a UFA. They will look for circumstantial moves they can make like the Dach/Romanov flip as well as consider UFA options if it makes sense to our long term success. These types of circumstantial moves tend to come out later that we can't predict today. Who would have predicted the Dach/Romanov flip and the Monahan+1st where Monahan preforms well?

Personally, I don't think they are looking to tank for 3+ years. They want to ice a team that improves and moves up the standings while also focusing on drafting/development.

 

[HuGo Burner Acc]

I think they will evaluate things month/month and season/season. I don't think they have a locked in plan to sign or not to sign a UFA. They will look for circumstantial moves they can make like the Dach/Romanov flip as well as consider UFA options if it makes sense to our long term success. These types of circumstantial moves tend to come out later that we can't predict today. Who would have predicted the Dach/Romanov flip and the Monahan+1st where Monahan preforms well?

Personally, I don't think they are looking to tank for 3+ years. They want to ice a team that improves and moves up the standings while also focusing on drafting/development.

Completely agree on the timeline of the tank as I've explained multiple times to people thinking Habs are starting or in the middle of a full on rebuild. Where I disagree with you I'd I don't think they have the ability to go on a month to month basis in the short term because of the lack of cap flexibility and undesirable vet contracts they have. Of course the Dach example you used is valid and such moves can still be made but on the basis of dishing out contracts, like I said they are extremely restricted in what they can do for the next year and a half. At least in the 2024 offseason, most of the terrible contracts will either be expired or tradable under the right (relatively desirable) circumstances

 

[ChesterNimitz]

To be fair, I don't even think Gorton or Hughes know how they are going to spend their cap this summer. Of course Caufield gets a raise so that's easy to predict. After that, it's going to be very circumstantial as options present themselves.



Pressure for Dubois to come home won't be the same as what Drouin faced. Drouin came on a island by himself and Dubois is a better 200' player who joins a core of Suzuki, Caufield, Dach, Guhle, Slaf, Xhekaj. Combine that with a very deep pool and very high draft power for a few more years yet.

The time to come home fits for both the Habs and Dubois. Habs will offer something to acquire but we have leverage if Dubois tells everyone else he will explore his UFA options if they try to call about a sign/trade

We have to stop over paying for the 'home town' factor. Just acquire the best talent available and everything else will take care of its self. This is an exercise in team building not nation building.

 

[Habs13]

Caufield eats up a chunk of it and I would assume the FA pool gets an interesting look

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

We have to stop over paying for the 'home town' factor. Just acquire the best talent available and everything else will take care of its self. This is an exercise in team building not nation building.

Today or tonight, Dubois is the best talent available to join our team. No other player of talent says in the medias he wants to play here. He have both talent and motivation to play here. Drouin will leave anyway and there will be a need for a local player. Montembeault and Savard are not enough. Dubois will take some part of the media pressure, the rest of the team will breathe. Dubois is strong between the ears, he will be okay with that pressure.

 

[JianYang]

I'm guessing he will just proceed patiently with the same mentality as this year.

He will probably try to wepaonize his cap space ala the monahan deal again if he can.

 

[SlafySZN]

I think people who think they’ll sign UFAs whoever it is are living in a dream.

They might accept a contrat or 2 in exchange of a pick like they did last summer with Monahan but that’s pretty much it.

They won’t finally get rid of salary to put another big contract (other than Caufield) on the cap 2 minutes after.

 

[Dach Vader]

I guess a lot will depend on how things play out at the draft, but I think they'll look to sign some depth pieces that could stabilize the line up and help the young guys.

 

[The Real Timo]

We need moar depp

 

[26Mats]

We have to stop over paying for the 'home town' factor. Just acquire the best talent available and everything else will take care of its self. This is an exercise in team building not nation building.

Hopefully Dubois is an example of the hometown factor working in our favor: he could go to any team in the league, but he chooses to come here. MB erroneously passed on Duclair and David Perron when they wanted to come here. Gainey passed on JP Dumont. Sometimes good hometown players in their want to come home as UFA's. It's up to us to take advantage of the hometown factor when it presents itself in positive instances...

 

[the]

Think Pasta can turn Gallagher into Marchand?

I hope no Boston fan is reading this thread. Gallagher can only dream to be as good as Marchand.

 

[Hins77]

We have to stop over paying for the 'home town' factor. Just acquire the best talent available and everything else will take care of its self. This is an exercise in team building not nation building.

I agree with you to add the better players, even if he is from Us, europe, canada…Don’t really care if he is born in Qc. But in the same time, if I had to bet on UFA market, pretty sure guys Pastrnak or Matthews will never ends in Mtl by several reasons. Hometown factor like Dubois case is certainly something montreal have to consider. The moment the aav on his contract is right, I have no problem to get him. But yeah, I dont want to see another drouin/sergachev happening just because drouin is francophone. however, Dubois is another story imo.

 

[habsfan44]

1. nope
2. nope
3. yes
4. maybe
5. Stay the course, suck it up buttercups, we are going somewhere.

I like numbers three and five . Re-sign Caufield long term , acquire a good , young goalie to compete with Primeau , Dobes , Monty etc. , and break in four or five rookie forwards next year similar to our young defensemen this year . We can then weaponize our cap space during the season and at the '24 deadline for more picks and prospects and probably start competing for a playoff spot in the 2024-25 season , at that point # 1 could possibly be an option .

 

[CHwest]

Hopefully Dubois is an example of the hometown factor working in our favor: he could go to any team in the league, but he chooses to come here. MB erroneously passed on Duclair and David Perron when they wanted to come here. Gainey passed on JP Dumont. Sometimes good hometown players in their want to come home as UFA's. It's up to us to take advantage of the hometown factor when it presents itself in positive instances...

He hasn't chosen to come here, talk is very cheap. Until I see it.....

 

[Garnet76]

I think its difficult to sign UFA this off season. The problem is they don't know what they have with a bunch of prospects that should arrive in the next year or two. Not to mention the 2 high picks they have in the up coming draft.

 

[1909]

They should keep the $$$ for a #1 goalie.

 

[ZUKI]

Think Pasta can turn Gallagher into Marchand?

Danault would be less expensive

 

[ZUKI]

Caufield ext.
Dubois
re-sign Monahan and of course Drouin
contract/Bonus for both Bedard and Fantilli

 

[kyne]

Caufield ext.
Dubois
re-sign Monahan and of course Drouin
contract/Bonus for both Bedard and Fantilli

A team bonus if they come in last? I like that.