How Some Contracts are Ruining the League
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Reverend Mayhem
Lowly Serf/Reluctant Cuckold
I just love how owner's are all: "LOWER THE SALARIES, WHY DO WE PAY THEM THIS MONEY? IT'S TOO MUCH!" every time a CBA is up and then not 1 year after the lockout give Clarkson $5.5 million for 6 years, Orpik the same for 5 years, Bolland the same...for **** sakes Gaborik is making less money than Dave ****ing Bolland.
It's embarrassing.
It's embarrassing.
MayonnaiseOreo
I Hate the Flyers
Draft Guru
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It's the system that's flawed.
Players don't get paid their worth in the early part of their careers, rather they get paid when they're on the decline.
"This always happens in America. Kobe Bryant, for example — why does he get a two-year contract extension for $50 million? Because of what he is going to do in the next two years for the Lakers? Of course not. Of course not. He gets it because of what he has done before. It makes no sense. Why do you pay for what has already happened?”
—United State’s Men’s National Soccer Coach Jurgen Klinsmann on why he cut Landon Donovan from the US World Cup squad.
Giving out long term contracts to free agents rarely works out in the end. You're investing (often heavily) in a depreciating asset.
You wouldn't see so many awful contracts if all players were eligible for free agency earlier in their careers, say 25. Teams would be getting them in their prime instead of on the decline. But teams would never go for this, either.
Players don't get paid their worth in the early part of their careers, rather they get paid when they're on the decline.
"This always happens in America. Kobe Bryant, for example — why does he get a two-year contract extension for $50 million? Because of what he is going to do in the next two years for the Lakers? Of course not. Of course not. He gets it because of what he has done before. It makes no sense. Why do you pay for what has already happened?”
—United State’s Men’s National Soccer Coach Jurgen Klinsmann on why he cut Landon Donovan from the US World Cup squad.
Giving out long term contracts to free agents rarely works out in the end. You're investing (often heavily) in a depreciating asset.
You wouldn't see so many awful contracts if all players were eligible for free agency earlier in their careers, say 25. Teams would be getting them in their prime instead of on the decline. But teams would never go for this, either.
Alexei Yashvalev
Registered User
Saving the GMs from themselves is a terrible idea. Compliance buyouts as constant get out of jail free cards will just encourage constant risky, dumb contract offers.
Viqsi
"that chick from Ohio"
If one must absolutely insist on such a system, then I'd suggest as a possibility that instead of having a regular recurring cap-free buyout option, have any newly hired GM get one at the start of his tenure (with a very strict time limit, and only applicable to contracts the team has when he's hired) and that's it. Then it's more likely to be used just as a tool to help clean up any messes the predecessor left behind, rather than as a Generic Get Out Of Jail Free card.
That said, I'm not fond of the idea to begin with and would prefer that things just remain the way they are. (And besides, that proposal would just potentially end GM job security at some organizations - particularly the ones where the GM isn't actually the guy calling all the shots.)
That said, I'm not fond of the idea to begin with and would prefer that things just remain the way they are. (And besides, that proposal would just potentially end GM job security at some organizations - particularly the ones where the GM isn't actually the guy calling all the shots.)
tarheelhockey
Offside Review Specialist
Again -- the money is already spent from the day the CBA is signed. The only question is how they decide to distribute it. The Clarkson and Orpik contracts might feel like salary inflation, but that's an illusion.
As a group, the owners' concern is simply with the TOTAL amount of salary being spent. Dumb decisions by their individual GMs are an in-house issue.
Ragamuffin Gunner
Lost in the Flood
So more "get-out-of-jail-free" cards for rich teams who make terrible decisions?
Sounds like an awesome idea!
Sounds like an awesome idea!
In my opinion, we should remove trade clauses in professional contracts. Encourage trades to crappier markets cause your playing like crap! Declining trades i.e heatley to edmonton, shows that players dont respect or love the game.
from a jealous fan that just woke up to a snowstorm
from a jealous fan that just woke up to a snowstorm
Its not a free card. They still have to pay the player. I think it would result in more GM firings because there would be more GM's coming to their owner to explain how they have to buy out a mistake they made.
Do you think the owners like to pay buyouts ?
Do you really think the owners like paying for buyouts ?
It would probably lead to more sanity then less. Because there would be pressure to buy out a bad player that the GM could not ignore.
And then they have to have that meeting with their owner
Ragamuffin Gunner
Lost in the Flood
It's cheaper than paying the full contract.
Just look at Sather and Holmgren. They threw around their owners money on terrible deals for years and weren't fired.
Give out 1 compliance buyout every 3 years. Let teams trade them and make them rollover so they can collect them all 
Team_Spirit
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Hell yeah, intensity would pick-up league wide.
It would never fly with the PA tho...
Yay or Nay :
If you want to use a buy-out, you have to forfeit your 1st round pick the same year.
The players still get the full money
They threw around money but their teams are still under the cap.
Trottier
Very Random
Ask NHL owners and players just how "ruined" the league is at this point in time.
Your's, with all due respect, is a flawed premise.
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Devil Dancer
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