Salary Cap: How much is too much for McAvoy?

[Blowfish]

A good debate amongst some fans taking place in this thread.
Your roster changes / proposals XI

Assuming term is 7+ years how much is too much for Charlie?

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[Gordon Lightfoot]

Too much meaning you walk away? I guess anything over $10.

 

[BAD BOY]

I go 12 on 3-4 years on a short term deal.

 

[TD Charlie]

I voted 12, but almost hit 11.

I think he gets 85ish over 8 years

 

[shelbysdad]

Whatever it is, the important thing is not not turn into Toronto with 4 players eating up half the salary cap

 

[MarbleMist]

Before the recent flurry of deals happened (Werenski for $9.5m etc.), I would've expected him to sign for $8m/yr, but there's zero chance of that happening now. I think it's remarkable how easily a new standard can be set.

Doesn't matter what they pay him though - prime years McAvoy will be a beast.

 

[DKH]

Predicting new contracts for Adam Fox, Charlie McAvoy, and Morgan Rielly

What would your budget be for AN NHL team

Forwards
Defense
Goalie

example $80 M
F 50
D 25
g 5

giving McAvoy $10 M you have $15 M fot the other 6 players

 

[DKH]

Whatever it is, the important thing is not not turn into Toronto with 4 players eating up half the salary cap

It’s going to have to

Rsngers example
Panarin $11.5 M
Fox $11.5 M
Kreider 6.5 M
Trouba 8 M
Shestyorkin 5.5 M
Goodrow 3.6 M
Lindgren 3 M


that’s 50 M

all 4-7 years if Fox gets rumored

7 guys need another 16 and oh by the way doesn’t include Kravtsov Lafreniere Kakko Miller Strome Zibanejad and 9 other guys

How’s it work

 

[Smitty93]

I'd go to $11M if it's an 8 year deal. I wouldn't love it, but you basically can't afford to lose him, unless people really want Brandon Carlo or Matt Grzelcyk as the #1 D on this team, because you're not finding a bargain on the free agent market. McAvoy's a top 5 defenseman in the league at 23 years old. You don't let that player walk away, and you're never going to get a trade package of equal value.

He's going to get at least $9.5M. Werenski just got $9.6M for 6 years. I don't know why McAvoy would take a cent less than that. Maybe Sweeney argues that Columbus had to bribe Werenski to stay, which is true, but McAvoy's agent won't care. The price is also just going to keep going up if they wait. My opinion is they should have had a deal ready to sign at 12:01 on July 28th, but I know there might be some cap considerations there.

 

[Horton Hears A Woo]

Before the recent flurry of deals happened (Werenski for $9.5m etc.), I would've expected him to sign for $8m/yr, but there's zero chance of that happening now. I think it's remarkable how easily a new standard can be set.

Doesn't matter what they pay him though - prime years McAvoy will be a beast.

This pay him what he wants. He is literally amazing

 

[PlayMakers]

Whatever it is, the important thing is not not turn into Toronto with 4 players eating up half the salary cap

Not sure why this is such a fear. Toronto is one of the best teams in the league. They don't lose in the playoffs because they pay for elite talent, they lose because their elite talent hasn't been able to get the job done, IMO.

 

[PlayMakers]

I don't think he'll ask for more than $10, but I pay him whatever he wants. Literally. He's an amazing talent and he has "it."

 

[Blowfish]

Not sure why this is such a fear. Toronto is one of the best teams in the league. They don't lose in the playoffs because they pay for elite talent, they lose because their elite talent hasn't been able to get the job done, IMO.

The elite players are creating havoc on the cap preventing the leafs from making decent moves, weakening the rest of the line up, etc.... It's simply mindless paying 3 players over 11 million each.

 

[smithformeragent]

A franchise defenseman is probably the most valuable asset on an NHL Hockey Team.

The Bruins have had some of the best of all time, but I’ll always be scarred by the years post Bourque, pre-Chara.

They lucked out big time when Z fell into their lap. That doesn’t happen.

You find a way to keep McAvoy in the fold and build around him.

I’m in favor of drawing lines in the sand in a lot of areas when it comes to roster building.

This ain’t one of them.

 

[BBBruins]

Many do not see the problem of paying Pastrnak 9.5-10.5 million. And the same people are wondering if 9-10 million (EVEN less than 9 m) is too much for McAvoy. Personally i see a much lower risk of paying McAvoy 10 million than Pastrnak. And I’d much rather pay that amount and more to Chuckie if you had to choose between the two. And I like Pastrnak a lot.

 

[shelbysdad]

It’s going to have to

Rsngers example
Panarin $11.5 M
Fox $11.5 M
Kreider 6.5 M
Trouba 8 M
Shestyorkin 5.5 M
Goodrow 3.6 M
Lindgren 3 M


that’s 50 M

all 4-7 years if Fox gets rumored

7 guys need another 16 and oh by the way doesn’t include Kravtsov Lafreniere Kakko Miller Strome Zibanejad and 9 other guys

How’s it work

not too well.....welcome to the middle of the pack every year

 

[shelbysdad]

Not sure why this is such a fear. Toronto is one of the best teams in the league. They don't lose in the playoffs because they pay for elite talent, they lose because their elite talent hasn't been able to get the job done, IMO.

They are one of the best teams during the regular season when they play inferior teams that they can out talent....that approach clearly hasn't worked for playoff hockey

 

[sarge88]

Predicting new contracts for Adam Fox, Charlie McAvoy, and Morgan Rielly

What would your budget be for AN NHL team

Forwards
Defense
Goalie

example $80 M
F 50
D 25
g 5

giving McAvoy $10 M you have $15 M fot the other 6 players

Putting names to salaries, say 2 years from now.

McAvoy - 11
Carlo - 4.1
Grzelcyk - 3.7
Forbort - 3.7
Reilly - 3.0
Lohrei - 1.0
Lyle - 1.0


$27,5
Doable

 

[smithformeragent]

Ok, so then what package is everyone dealing him for if you’re not in favor of ponying up?

(And you might as well blow the whole thing up and start over at that point)

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

Went as high as 13M. I think that or over, Charlie just doesn’t really want to be here and an ask like that would give me that impression.

11-12M, eh… oh well.

10-11M, top of the market value

-9.1-9.99M- fair deal

8-9M, STEAL

 

[Blowfish]

Ok, so then what package is everyone dealing him for if you’re not in favor of ponying up?

(And you might as well blow the whole thing up and start over at that point)

So you're willing to pay Charlie what he wants (let's say 12 mil) with no regard to the cap and the impact this will have on building the rest of the team?

The only time I saw this work was the Blackhawks. I don't ever see it happening again.

 

[The National]

10+ even though he’s probably worth it..

 

[Richard Lather]

Yeah, I can't believe this is up for debate.

I really, really don't want to go to top pairing by committee

 

[Jdavidev]

Anything over $25M a year is probably too much, but I don't know. I might do it.

 

[smithformeragent]

So you're willing to pay Charlie what he wants (let's say 12 mil) with no regard to the cap and the impact this will have on building the rest of the team?

The only time I saw this work was the Blackhawks. I don't ever see it happening again.

So balk at $12m if it comes to it, and deal him for what then?

Then rebuild and hope to find another franchise caliber defenseman (and then not pay him market value)?