How many points does Adam Fox need to win the defenseman scoring race by to win the Norris?

[FoxyClean]

He currently leads Hedman and Carlson by 4 points.

Is that enough to win?

If not then what is?

5? 8? 10?

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[ijuka]

Shouldn't be very many since he's better defensively than most of his competition.

I don't really understand why he's now considered some offensive defenseman.

 

[FoxyClean]

Shouldn't be very many since he's better defensively than most of his competition.

I don't really understand why he's now considered some offensive defenseman.

He's elite defensively as well, but he won't get the nod just based on that because unfortunately it's now a reputation award and Hedman/Carlson have that reputation already.

 

[TomasHertlsRooster]

He would need to score at least 10 more points than Hedman to win the Norris and unfortunately even then that’s probably not going to be enough since the Rangers won’t make the playoffs.

 

[Five Alarm Fire]

I would be good with Fox winning it this year, he's been outstanding. When hockey writers start peeling away at the underlying stats, they should draw a similar conclusion.

Hedman has had a very interesting role this season, and it's starting to catch up to him. He's leading the team in scoring in a year where goals have been hard to come by. He's been really trying to force the issue offensively, joining the forecheck/rush and taking more risks than usual. There have been a lot of odd man rushes that he's responsible for. Usually he's a fast enough skater to recover, but I think he's just been gassed with the workload he's had. He's averaging 25 minutes a game and playing in all situations.

 

[Sureves]

He's elite defensively as well, but he won't get the nod just based on that because unfortunately it's now a reputation award and Hedman/Carlson have that reputation already.

It’s now a reputation award? When was it not?

 

[Machinehead]

Fox needs Victor Hedman to retire before May to win the Norris.

 

[Muffin]

It's Irrelevant how many points he has, if his team misses the playoffs he's not winning the Norris.

 

[FoxyClean]

It's Irrelevant how many points he has, if his team misses the playoffs he's not winning the Norris.

That sounds like a cataclysmic fault with the award.

 

[Sky04]

Fox needs Victor Hedman to retire before May to win the Norris.

This is an excellent season for him to get recognized league wide. I think he wins one in the next 2-3 years, I like him better as an all round player than most of his peers

 

[rangersfansince08]

Win the Norris? According to @nbwingsfan its not even a sure thing he gets nominated.

 

[Northern Avs Fan]

3-5 should do it. I think it’s more important for the Rangers to make the playoffs.

 

[Raian]

There are plenty of Norris contenders this year, and I'm far from the only one who isnt sure he gets nominated. Definitely in the top 5-6 though.

Likely part of a very small minority who thinks that

 

[rangersfansince08]

There are plenty of Norris contenders this year, and I'm far from the only one who isnt sure he gets nominated. Definitely in the top 5-6 though.

Make a poll then

 

[bossram]

He'll need to win by 10+ points, especially if the Rangers miss the playoffs.

The Norris is a reputation award so Hedman already has this locked up.

 

[SotasicA]

Irrelevant. He just needs to be the best defenseman.

 

[CatchyTune]

Irrelevant. He just needs to be the best defenseman.

have you followed the way the Norris has been awarded? it sadly is basically a points race.

 

[Savant]

Fox won’t get it because the Rangers are going to miss the playoffs, but he at worst should be top 3

 

[hamzarocks]

He's the 3rd best defenseman in the NHL IMO after Makar and Hedman, so it's less about the points and more about outplaying those two down the stretch

I think he ends up 2nd due to Makar missing too many games. If they all had played 56 games this year i'd have it

1. Makar
2. Hedman
3. Fox

 

[Sureves]

have you followed the way the Norris has been awarded? it sadly is basically a points race.

No it isn’t. Show your work.

 

[Sky04]

have you followed the way the Norris has been awarded? it sadly is basically a points race.

Ok so how many defenseman who finish 1st in scoring have won the Norris in the last 15 years?

 

[Mickey Marner]

It's Irrelevant how many points he has, if his team misses the playoffs he's not winning the Norris.

Yup.

Karlsson finished tied for 4th in league scoring with 82 points and didn't win the Norris. The year before he tied for 23rd with 66 points and won because Ottawa made the playoffs.

Way she goes.

 

[IceNeophyte]

Irrelevant. He just needs to be the best defenseman.

That would be nice, but hockey writers are a lazy bunch who look at Stat sheets to vote on awards instead of actually watching all the games.

 

[WetcoastOrca]

He would probably need to win by at least 10 points over Hedman to close the gap between their defensive games. Not saying Fox isn’t great defensively. I just think Hedman is better.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

He should get it now. Don’t even wait until the season is over