How many 20 goal guys do the Habs have this year (poll)?

[salbutera]

I expect Habs to have minimum 2-30G players this season (Gallagher & Caufield) with possibility of Toffoli and outside chance one of Hoffman / Anderson

Can’t recall the last time Habs even had two players pot 30G+.... 1995-1996 (Turgeon & Damphousse)?

check that: Pacioretty & Cole in 2011-2012

 

[26Mats]

0.24/0.25 goals per game is prorated for 20 goals. Last year, we had 5 guys on that pace with a few more just outside. Can we get 6-8 guys this year that score 20 or lets say have 0.25 pts/game but play a min of 40 games?

Good question. Need a poll.

Though hard to predict, given injury possibilities.

I'll say 7 will score at a 20 goal per 82 games pace:

Toffoli
Hoffman
Caufield
Gallagher
Dvorak
Suzuki
Anderson

Hopefully Drew, Armia, and Avans can make it 10.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Good question. Need a poll.

Though hard to predict, given injury possibilities.

I'll say 7 will score at a 20 goal per 82 games pace:

Toffoli
Hoffman
Caufield
Gallagher
Dvorak
Suzuki
Anderson

Hopefully Drew, Armia, and Avans can make it 10.

If it's 5 or less, I would say it's a rough year. If it's 7 or 8, we are going to be entertained!

 

[Habs Halifax]

Good question. Need a poll.

Though hard to predict, given injury possibilities.

I'll say 7 will score at a 20 goal per 82 games pace:

Toffoli
Hoffman
Caufield
Gallagher
Dvorak
Suzuki
Anderson

Hopefully Drew, Armia, and Avans can make it 10.

Poll added

 

[Habs10025]

Toffoli, Suzuki, Caufield, Hoffman , Anderson , Gallagher .

Dvorak ( Maybe )
Drouin ( Hopefully )

 

[Andy]

Four.

There is only one puck and so many minutes to go around. Guys who usually score 20 will have a lesser role from being bumped down in favor of players like Caufield for example.

 

[Adam Michaels]

It goes without saying that it also depends on health.

I don't want to say anyone will hit 30, even if I think at least one of them will hit the 30-goal mark.

But for at least 20 goals, I think 6 can:
- Toffoli
- Hoffman
- Caufield
- Anderson
- Dvorak
- Gallagher


1) Toffoli: Has been a 20+ goal guy his entire career except his rookie season and in 2018-19. He also had 16 goals in 2017-18, but it was in 63 games, which is prorated to 21 goals.

2) Hoffman: Has been a 20+ goal scorer his entire career (except his rookie year where he played 25 games). Only last year he didn't hit 20. He had 17 in 52 games, which is prorated to 27 goals.

3) Caufield: I'm staying conservative simply because it will be his first full season. He definitely has the potential to be a 30-40 goal player. But I will start conservative with him.

4) Anderson: He doesn't have the goal resume of Toffoli and Hoffman, but he's already had a 27-goal season. He had another season with 19 goals in 62 games in 2017-18, which is prorated to 25 goals. And last year, he had 17 in 52 (like Hoffman), which is prorated to 27 goals.

5) Dvorak: He's a goal scoring center. In 2019-20, he had 18 goals in 70 games (prorated to 21 goals). And last year, he had 17 goals in 56 games (prorated to 25 goals). With the group of wingers he will be playing, I think he will be a 20+ goal center.

6) Gallagher: No matter where in the line-up he's slotted (whether top line or 3rd line) and no matter who he plays with, this guy finds a way to score. He's already had 4 seasons of 20+ goals (2 of them 30+). In 2015-16, he had 19 goals in 53 games (29 goal pace). And last year, he had 14 in 35 games (33 goal pace).

* The only asterisk I will add on Gallagher is if he remains healthy. Because the last two years, he missed time to injuries. So if he is hindered by injury, I feel like he will be scoring at a 20+ goal pace.



I can see Suzuki, Drouin, and Armia with the potential to hit 20 goals. But I think they will be more along the 15-20 goal mark.

 

[JianYang]

It goes without saying that it also depends on health.

I don't want to say anyone will hit 30, even if I think at least one of them will hit the 30-goal mark.

But for at least 20 goals, I think 6 can:
- Toffoli
- Hoffman
- Caufield
- Anderson
- Dvorak
- Gallagher


1) Toffoli: Has been a 20+ goal guy his entire career except his rookie season and in 2018-19. He also had 16 goals in 2017-18, but it was in 63 games, which is prorated to 21 goals.

2) Hoffman: Has been a 20+ goal scorer his entire career (except his rookie year where he played 25 games). Only last year he didn't hit 20. He had 17 in 52 games, which is prorated to 27 goals.

3) Caufield: I'm staying conservative simply because it will be his first full season. He definitely has the potential to be a 30-40 goal player. But I will start conservative with him.

4) Anderson: He doesn't have the goal resume of Toffoli and Hoffman, but he's already had a 27-goal season. He had another season with 19 goals in 62 games in 2017-18, which is prorated to 25 goals. And last year, he had 17 in 52 (like Hoffman), which is prorated to 27 goals.

5) Dvorak: He's a goal scoring center. In 2019-20, he had 18 goals in 70 games (prorated to 21 goals). And last year, he had 17 goals in 56 games (prorated to 25 goals). With the group of wingers he will be playing, I think he will be a 20+ goal center.

6) Gallagher: No matter where in the line-up he's slotted (whether top line or 3rd line) and no matter who he plays with, this guy finds a way to score. He's already had 4 seasons of 20+ goals (2 of them 30+). In 2015-16, he had 19 goals in 53 games (29 goal pace). And last year, he had 14 in 35 games (33 goal pace).

* The only asterisk I will add on Gallagher is if he remains healthy. Because the last two years, he missed time to injuries. So if he is hindered by injury, I feel like he will be scoring at a 20+ goal pace.



I can see Suzuki, Drouin, and Armia with the potential to hit 20 goals. But I think they will be more along the 15-20 goal mark.

Lots of guys have the ability to pot 20 plus, but it also depends on opportunity. A couple wingers listed above might not even get to play with the top 2 centers on a healthy roster. It's tougher sledding if your full time center is someone like Evans as opposed to Suzuki or Dvorak. No offense to Evans though because I do like him too.

 

[Bacchus1]

I put 8 or more, I just don’t know if they will have enough ice time to go around. Also, Byron might hit it pto-rated.

 

[Frenchy]

What about Drouin ?

I was thinking the same thing . Am i putting too much pressure on Drouin if i hope that he could score 20 goals this season ?

this is a pretty accurate list :

Toffoli
Hoffman
Caufield
Gallagher
Dvorak
Suzuki
Anderson

but i hope Drouin is on it.

 

[26Mats]

It goes without saying that it also depends on health.

I don't want to say anyone will hit 30, even if I think at least one of them will hit the 30-goal mark.

But for at least 20 goals, I think 6 can:
- Toffoli
- Hoffman
- Caufield
- Anderson
- Dvorak
- Gallagher


1) Toffoli: Has been a 20+ goal guy his entire career except his rookie season and in 2018-19. He also had 16 goals in 2017-18, but it was in 63 games, which is prorated to 21 goals.

2) Hoffman: Has been a 20+ goal scorer his entire career (except his rookie year where he played 25 games). Only last year he didn't hit 20. He had 17 in 52 games, which is prorated to 27 goals.

3) Caufield: I'm staying conservative simply because it will be his first full season. He definitely has the potential to be a 30-40 goal player. But I will start conservative with him.

4) Anderson: He doesn't have the goal resume of Toffoli and Hoffman, but he's already had a 27-goal season. He had another season with 19 goals in 62 games in 2017-18, which is prorated to 25 goals. And last year, he had 17 in 52 (like Hoffman), which is prorated to 27 goals.

5) Dvorak: He's a goal scoring center. In 2019-20, he had 18 goals in 70 games (prorated to 21 goals). And last year, he had 17 goals in 56 games (prorated to 25 goals). With the group of wingers he will be playing, I think he will be a 20+ goal center.

6) Gallagher: No matter where in the line-up he's slotted (whether top line or 3rd line) and no matter who he plays with, this guy finds a way to score. He's already had 4 seasons of 20+ goals (2 of them 30+). In 2015-16, he had 19 goals in 53 games (29 goal pace). And last year, he had 14 in 35 games (33 goal pace).

* The only asterisk I will add on Gallagher is if he remains healthy. Because the last two years, he missed time to injuries. So if he is hindered by injury, I feel like he will be scoring at a 20+ goal pace.



I can see Suzuki, Drouin, and Armia with the potential to hit 20 goals. But I think they will be more along the 15-20 goal mark.

Suzuki scored at a 0.267 goals per game pace, which would have given him 22 over 82 games.

I think he should score at a higher pace than that playing the whole year with Caufield, or other good offensive wingers. But we'll see.

 

[Dondini]

Caufield, Toffoli, Dvorak (30) Hoffman Suzuki gallagher Anderson (25), poehling (20)

armia get close with 17. Drouin gets 15 goals 55 points. Petry. snipes 14.

you heard it here first.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

I picked 5: Toffoli, Suzuki, Caufield, Gallagher and Hoffman, as long as the latter isn't out too long.

However, think Dvorak could make it 6.

If Anderson hits it off with Drouin again, he could make it 7, but think the 1st 5 are sure things.

 

[TesseractPrice]

Sure locks or as close to it as possible: Toffoli, Gallagher, Hoffman

Likely: Dvorak, Caufield

Decently likely: Suzuki

There's a chance but I wouldn't bet on it: Anderson

Dark horse: Armia

Considering this I would say 6 guys do it

 

[Habs Halifax]

Lots of guys have the ability to pot 20 plus, but it also depends on opportunity. A couple wingers listed above might not even get to play with the top 2 centers on a healthy roster. It's tougher sledding if your full time center is someone like Evans as opposed to Suzuki or Dvorak. No offense to Evans though because I do like him too.

Islanders is a good situation to look at. I believe they had 7 guys who had 0.25 goals/game pace last season. That would be a high number for us. I think 6 is reachable and 7 and 8 means we are a top 10 offensive team which I doubt but hope

 

[SwiftyHab]

Anyone want to revisit this question?
I’m going to go with zero!

 

[SwiftyHab]

Or better yet, “Will the Habs score 20 goals this season?”

 

[Grand Admiral Thrawn]

Wondering now if the Habs as a team will score 20 goals all year.

 

[McGees]

I think Drouin, maybe Wideman.
Perhaps Perron when we trade Caufield for him.

 

[RationalExpectations]

Wondering now if the Habs as a team will score 20 goals all year.

Well that d be a new low but given how they play right now, they could end up with less than 2 goals per game, i.e. 164 which would already be bad…

Right now I don t see any hope for this team. You d need Caufield and Suzuki to really step up to have any kind of chance of rebound and counting on non elite 20 year olds to drag your team is kind of desperation mode activated.

 

[bobholly39]

In my opinion:

Suzuki, Caufield, Drouin, Toffoli, Gallagher, Anderson and Hoffman will all score 20+. So that's 7

Dark Horse to also score 20:

Carey Price

Updated prediction: Just 1 - Carey Price.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

Apparently the answer is none. Lmfao

We should in fact have a few, but our D is killing everything it's so bad. We need Price back for his transition game.

 

[beowulf]

Unless something really starts to click soon, my 4 or less vote is feeling increasingly right.

 

[Andy]

This exercise doesn't take into account the context in which players produce at 20 goal paces.

You can't just look at someone's goal history and assume he's gonna score 20 because he has a track record. You have to ask in what role did he score those goals? Did they score 20 because they were play 18 minutes a night in the top 6, with 2-4 min of powerplay time on the first wave?

Is someone who scores 20 getting fed minutes and plays special teams going to score 20 playing less time, in the bottom 6, with no PP?

There is only one puck and limit offensive opportunity.

It's one thing if you have a guy who scores 20 goals regularly playing 3rd line minutes, with no PP. Then it's reasonable to expect it. But if you have a guy who barely gets 20 playing prime offensive opportunities, then he may not hit if his role is reduced.

 

[ChesterNimitz]

Unless something really starts to click soon, my 4 or less vote is feeling increasingly right.

Right now the better question might be whether the entire team will score 20 goals this year.