How is a back to back SCF fair?

[Perfect_Drug]

Yeah but it's game 4 and 5. I'm saying it'll end in 4...

I predict a 5OT that ends at 3am Edmonton time.
Half of the East Coast will catch the winner on their commute to work.

Then they'll have a 12 hour break before needing to play Game 5.


Cuz NHL gonna keep NHL-ing.

 

[Gunnersaurus Rex]

I predict a 5OT that ends at 3am Edmonton time.
Half of the East Coast will catch the winner on their commute to work.

Then they'll have a 12 hour break before needing to play Game 5.


Cuz NHL gonna keep NHL-ing.

That would be awesome !!

 

[Varan]

Don't talk to me about "fair".

"Fair" is asking someone for the time and getting kicked in the nuts.

This makes no sense

 

[Hockeyholic]

When is the last time a SCF had back to back games? Crazy.

 

[Electricity]

Dallas earned their rest by whupping the Knights just like the Bolts did by humiliating Boston.

 

[Dream Big]

Forget the complaints from the organization. ( The Lightning) How is a back to back in the SCF a good idea? I get money talks and they need to get out of this bubble, but on ice product is important also.

This game tonight between TBL and NYI was gross. Both teams ran out of gas.

C'mon NHL, us fans deserve good hockey.

Don't worry. Soon fans will have more control over the players. Just zap the button for more speed.

like a Fitbit in your skull.”

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Elon Musk demonstrates brain-computer tech Neuralink in live pigs

 

[ThreeLeftSkates]

So did Tampa!

The Lightning arrived a day earlier in Edmonton.

 

[joe dirte]

Forget the complaints from the organization. ( The Lightning) How is a back to back in the SCF a good idea? I get money talks and they need to get out of this bubble, but on ice product is important also.

This game tonight between TBL and NYI was gross. Both teams ran out of gas.

C'mon NHL, us fans deserve good hockey.

Is that what we deserve?

 

[member 96824]

Does one team not have to do the back to back?

 

[Kaner9]

Its just lucky that the games even get played. No complaints here even if shit aint perfect.

 

[Canadian Game]

The thread title and opening post ask 2 very different questions:

Thread title asks “how is a back to back SCF fair?”
Opening post asks “how is a back to back in the SCF a good idea?”

Which one is it?

Fairness: both teams are involved and the back to back affects both teams equally.

Good idea: tv ratings on a Friday/Saturday night, and the NHL has made it well known that the goal is to finish the playoffs ASAP. Because of this, they’re not going to take 2 days off and skip Friday, yet they also want the Saturday ratings (if applicable).

 

[Oddbob]

Why complain about the schedule? They were working with a small timetable and they jammed in as much as they could. They could have just cancelled all of it. Also, every team played back to back playoff games, so it wasn't unfair to anyone, it was all even.

 

[c9777666]

We did have B2B games to start the 09 Cup Finals, but PIT had 4 days off before that series started and DET had 3 days off

 

[Eisen]

Forget the complaints from the organization. ( The Lightning) How is a back to back in the SCF a good idea? I get money talks and they need to get out of this bubble, but on ice product is important also.

This game tonight between TBL and NYI was gross. Both teams ran out of gas.

C'mon NHL, us fans deserve good hockey.

They ran out of gas because of two games in two days? True athleticism. Good thing they play hockey, they'd be dead playing handball or finish the Tour de France.

 

[Voight]

How was it fair in 2009 when the NHL moved the SCF up a week, giving DET little time to rest.

 

[Nino33]

How was it fair in 2009 when the NHL moved the SCF up a week, giving DET little time to rest.

According to hockeyreference Pittsburgh closed out their semi-final series May 26th, Detroit theirs on May 27th, and the Finals started May 30th. The Penguins played their 4 game sweep semi series from May 18-26 while Detroit played their 5 game semi series from May 17-27. If they moved it up wouldn't it just be to avoid a delay of over a week between the semis and finals

 

[Nino33]

We did have B2B games to start the 09 Cup Finals, but PIT had 4 days off before that series started and DET had 3 days off

Detroit took 5 games to win their semi series, Pittsburgh won theirs in 4. During their semi series Pittsburgh had 5 off days, Detroit had 6

I wonder if arena availability is why they had back-to-back games the start the final

 

[Uncle Scrooge]

Add me to the pile of people who don’t understand how it’s NOT fair as long as both teams have to do it.

It's not the same though. That B2B is the 7th game in 12 days for Tampa. 5th game in 12 days for Dallas. Next game after that is 3in4, 8th and 6th game in 14 days and so on.

Anyone who tracks data for betting purposes knows that this can make a difference. These guys are professional athletes who can play a lot of hockey in spurts and not show a lot of fatigue. It's always the wear and tear from a longer period of time that can ultimately create mental lapses in your game. Assuming all these games in the finals are tough teams are going to have to really lay it all on the line and spend a lot of energy every game, so 7 games in 12 days in the playoffs is really more like 8 games in 12 days in the regular season.

In the regular season it's very common to see teams hit some low energy spots after playing a lot of hockey over a couple weeks like that. See this a lot especially in late February/March when they start pumping the games out after all the breaks are done with, or earlier in the season before christmas break. Doesn't necessarily mean automatic losses, just more mistakes or periods when the legs/mind aren't there.

It's naive to think that just because these teams have the same schedule in the span of a week that they'd be completely on an even playing field for the whole series.

It's not some sort of HUGE advantage for Dallas. At the end of the day it's the stanley cup finals and every player should be able to squeeze everything they have. But it is a potential slight advantage and even winning a couple periods or mistake or two when guys are starting to run on fumes because of it can make a difference.

 

[tarheelhockey]

It's not the same though. That B2B is the 7th game in 12 days for Tampa. 5th game in 12 days for Dallas. Next game after that is 3in4, 8th and 6th game in 14 days and so on.

Anyone who tracks data for betting purposes knows that this can make a difference. These guys are professional athletes who can play a lot of hockey in spurts and not show a lot of fatigue. It's always the wear and tear from a longer period of time that can ultimately create mental lapses in your game. Assuming all these games in the finals are tough teams are going to have to really lay it all on the line and spend a lot of energy every game, so 7 games in 12 days in the playoffs is really more like 8 games in 12 days in the regular season.

In the regular season it's very common to see teams hit some low energy spots after playing a lot of hockey over a couple weeks like that. See this a lot especially in late February/March when they start pumping the games out after all the breaks are done with, or earlier in the season before christmas break. Doesn't necessarily mean automatic losses, just more mistakes or periods when the legs/mind aren't there.

It's naive to think that just because these teams have the same schedule in the span of a week that they'd be completely on an even playing field for the whole series.

It's not some sort of HUGE advantage for Dallas. At the end of the day it's the stanley cup finals and every player should be able to squeeze everything they have. But it is a potential slight advantage and even winning a couple periods or mistake or two when guys are starting to run on fumes because of it can make a difference.

And that’s because Tampa took longer to finish their CF series. Dallas got done early and earned a bit of extra rest.

 

[Mr Positive]

It's not the same though. That B2B is the 7th game in 12 days for Tampa. 5th game in 12 days for Dallas. Next game after that is 3in4, 8th and 6th game in 14 days and so on.

Anyone who tracks data for betting purposes knows that this can make a difference. These guys are professional athletes who can play a lot of hockey in spurts and not show a lot of fatigue. It's always the wear and tear from a longer period of time that can ultimately create mental lapses in your game. Assuming all these games in the finals are tough teams are going to have to really lay it all on the line and spend a lot of energy every game, so 7 games in 12 days in the playoffs is really more like 8 games in 12 days in the regular season.

In the regular season it's very common to see teams hit some low energy spots after playing a lot of hockey over a couple weeks like that. See this a lot especially in late February/March when they start pumping the games out after all the breaks are done with, or earlier in the season before christmas break. Doesn't necessarily mean automatic losses, just more mistakes or periods when the legs/mind aren't there.

It's naive to think that just because these teams have the same schedule in the span of a week that they'd be completely on an even playing field for the whole series.

It's not some sort of HUGE advantage for Dallas. At the end of the day it's the stanley cup finals and every player should be able to squeeze everything they have. But it is a potential slight advantage and even winning a couple periods or mistake or two when guys are starting to run on fumes because of it can make a difference.

But that was even an advantage before. You had extra rest if you finished early. Winning in fewer games is supposed to have this benefit. Sure it matters more now, but it's not special

 

[Max1997]

I predict a 5OT that ends at 3am Edmonton time.
Half of the East Coast will catch the winner on their commute to work.

Then they'll have a 12 hour break before needing to play Game 5.


Cuz NHL gonna keep NHL-ing.

Stop complaining - it's what the players wanted so they could be out of the bubble quicker...

 

[Max1997]

It's not the same though. That B2B is the 7th game in 12 days for Tampa. 5th game in 12 days for Dallas. Next game after that is 3in4, 8th and 6th game in 14 days and so on.

Anyone who tracks data for betting purposes knows that this can make a difference. These guys are professional athletes who can play a lot of hockey in spurts and not show a lot of fatigue. It's always the wear and tear from a longer period of time that can ultimately create mental lapses in your game. Assuming all these games in the finals are tough teams are going to have to really lay it all on the line and spend a lot of energy every game, so 7 games in 12 days in the playoffs is really more like 8 games in 12 days in the regular season.

In the regular season it's very common to see teams hit some low energy spots after playing a lot of hockey over a couple weeks like that. See this a lot especially in late February/March when they start pumping the games out after all the breaks are done with, or earlier in the season before christmas break. Doesn't necessarily mean automatic losses, just more mistakes or periods when the legs/mind aren't there.

It's naive to think that just because these teams have the same schedule in the span of a week that they'd be completely on an even playing field for the whole series.

It's not some sort of HUGE advantage for Dallas. At the end of the day it's the stanley cup finals and every player should be able to squeeze everything they have. But it is a potential slight advantage and even winning a couple periods or mistake or two when guys are starting to run on fumes because of it can make a difference.

The bigger test is having to put the season on hold for 3 months, and then subsequently have the playoffs in 2 "bubbles". Your post is kind of irrelevant during COVID times. Wait until an 82 game schedule next season when in doesn't start until January - you ain't seen nothing yet... because Bettman seems adamant on a full schedule no matter what.

 

[Ace Card Bedard]

This is what the players agreed to plus they had those two extra days off for the protest.
I doubt scheduling a back-to-back makes any difference.

 

[Crosbyfan]

Don't talk to me about "fair".

"Fair" is asking someone for the time and getting kicked in the nuts.

I don't see how that's fair, but maybe it's just me.

 

[ryerockarola]

I don't see how that's fair, but maybe it's just me.

Could be a tough up-bringing. Dad what time is is? Wham, boot to the pills. Asks dad later what was that all about? It's fair son.

So playing back-to-backs isn't close to "fair" for this guy lol, it's all I got

it's stupid but as far as fair no comment