How Impressive is 1000GP, 500G, 500A, 1000P with 1 Franchise

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  1. IggyFan12

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    With Iginla coming with in reach to get 1000 Points and 500 Goals I wonder how impressive is it of an acomplishment to get 1000GP, 500G, 500A and 1000P with 1 Franchise? Also what current players have a shot at it? The following players have all done it:

    1) Gordie Howe, Red Wings-1687GP-786G-1023A-1809P
    2) Steve Yzerman Red Wings- 1514GP-692G-1063A-1755P
    3) Joe Sakic Colorado/Quebec- 1378GP-625G-1016A-1641P
    4) Stan Mikita Chicago- 1394GP-541G-926A-1467P
    5) Brian Trottier NYI- 1123GP-500G-926A-1467P
    6) Mike Modano- Dallas/Minny 1459GP-557G-802A-1359P
    7) John Bucyk Boston-1436GP-545G-794A-1353P
    8) Gilbert Perreault Buffalo-1191GP-512G-814A-1326P
    9) Jean Beliveau Montreal-1125GP-507G-712A-1219P
    10)Luc Robitaille LA Kings-1077GP-557G-597A-1154P
    11) Bobby Hull Chicago- 1,036GP-604G-549A-1,153P

    Jarome Iginla Flames-1,098 474 517 991

    Of the Players who have accomplished it only the following have played with one team their whole careers:
    Yzerman, Sakic, Mikita, Perreault, and Beliveau.
     
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    Vinny has a shot at it:

    924GP 345G 435A 780P

    Obviously still a way off, just figured with that lifetime contract of his he is a safe bet to stay, and 155G 65A 220P isnt too much of a push in 8 years+
     
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    With one franchise in the modern era, I find that extremely impressive. It's pretty much the definition of "franchise player". Yzerman, Sakic, Mikita, Perrault and Beliveau is extremely exclusive company.
     
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    What make this so impressive and cause the group is so small is 500 goals limit.
     
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    I find the feat of scoring 500 goals and 500 assists impressive, but that has nothing to do with doing it with just one team. Being traded or signing somewhere else does not reduce the significance of those numbers to me.
     
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    1000GP, 500G, 500A, 1000P ?

    Patrick Marleau is the youngest ever to play 1000 games with one franchise.

    He is at 1026 GP, 349G, 403A, 752P. Can he get 151G and 97A more in San Jose? Well, he's only 31 and he has three more years left on his contract. He is on pace to get the assists but would need one more year in addition to his present contract to get the goal total. So, assuming he finishes off his contract and plays one more season as a Shark, yes, he'll do it.
     
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    Very interesting that Vinny and Marleau are closing in on those numbers. I think Vinny will get it for sure, Marleau will be close however.

    Doing it with one team shows how important that one player was to the team. It is extremely hard to get 1000-500-500-1000 but to do it with one team associates you with that team forever. You truly become a team legend. It also shows that the player didn't want to leave and the team wanted them as well.

    What is really interesting is that there is only 1 Montreal Canadien on that list but 2 Blackhawks and 2 Red Wings.
     
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    To me, playing 1000 games regardless of the other numbers is very impressive. There's a certain legacy aspect to it, not just because of the statistical milestone but because you've been there season after season through the ups and downs (and in some cases, a lot more of one than the other). Players who stick around like that just seem more... relevant to their teams than someone who pops in and out with suitcase in hand.

    So combining that with the other big milestones is, maybe not more impressive, but more memorable and commendable.
     
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    lol I love how Gretzky isn't on that list for the Oilers ONLY because he didn't get to 1000 games.
     
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    For most clubs, it would pretty much guarantee your number hangs in the rafters.
    Which is quite an honor.
     
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    Lol Same for Mario and the Pens.
     
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    Daniel Alfredsson might do it, but at 38 with a bad back it's not likely that he'll reach 500 goals.

    Patrik Elias is a longshot, but it's not inconceivable that he might do it. The goals are the only question mark (he's at 330 now), but he's still relatively young at 34 and has put up several 30+ goal seasons before. It's possible he could get another 170 if he sticks around for 6 or 7 more years.

    Then of course there's Crosby and Ovechkin.
     
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    Now all Iginla have to do is to win a Cup.
     
  14. How about 600 goals with one team?
     
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    The following players have scored 600 goals with 1 Franchise regardless of games played:

    1) Gordie Howe, Red Wings-1687GP-786G
    2) Steve Yzerman Red Wings- 1514GP-692G
    3) Mario Lemieux-915G-690G
    4) Joe Sakic Colorado/Quebec- 1378GP-625G
    5) Bobby Hull Chicago- 1,036GP-604G
     
  16. Iggy should hit 600 goals without too much trouble. Does that make him first ballot? IMO considering the era he played in he should be almost a no-brainer first ballot Hofer.
     
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    First ballot lock. Any player that's in the top 3 scorers over a 15 year period, won plenty of hardware and all-stars, and played a tough/clean game has got to be.
     
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    Iginla is a lock....and he's only 33 yrs old.

    Lets say for the sake of argument he has 5 more yrs in him, and averages 28 goals and 35 assists. He comes out with appx. 615 goals and 700 assists. Stats-wise he's amid Bobby Hull, Jarri Kurri, Denis Savard, Luc Robataille, Mats Sundin, Guy Lafleur, Ciccarelli and Selanne territory.

    Not bad I'd say....
     
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    I dont see Marleau hit 151 goals in four season. It is average about 38 goals per season. He is perennial 25-30 goals scorer. Basically I am sure he hit 500 goals mark but not in four seasons.
     
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    Makes me wonder how we would view him if he had never left Edmonton. IMO he lost a little bit of his luster bouncing around at the end of his career.
     
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    He'd be 'A product of a stacked team' even more than he is now. Heh. That aside, I do think what he did in LA in expanding the popularity of hockey in the south definitely adds to his legacy. Could have done without the st Louis years though. P
     
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    Gretzky and Lemieux both make this list, except for games played. Jagr JUST missed out on it with 439 goals.

    It's impressive sure, but not all players have the luxury of being able to stick with the same franchise from start to finish.

    Bourque is also the closest defence man with 395 goals, and well over 1500 points and games played.
     
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    Daniel Sedin is a possibility. Provided they're healthy, Crosby and Ovechkin are virtually certain to make the point totals with one team.
     
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    Without too much trouble? Eh. Maybe. He'll be 34 this summer, can he score 30+ goals a year for 4 more years? He could very likely start to slip. It's pretty rare that a player maintains that level of play past 35.
     
  25. I don't see why Iginla can't do what Selannes done. He's never had a serious injury and most of his game is based on his goalscoring instincts and his shot. Not so much skating and certainly not his physical play ANYMORE.
     

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