How good are the Arizona Coyotes?

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  1. MichaelFarrell Registered User

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    One of the most perplexing teams for me is the Coyotes. Are they a playoff team now? Are they going to be a contender in the future? What do you think?

    Potential Lines:

    Keller-Schmaltz-Kessel
    Dvorak-Stepan-Hinostoza
    Garland-Soderberg-Fischer
    Crouse-Richardson-Grabner
    Hayton-Merkley

    Ekman-Larsson-Demers
    Chychurn-Hjalmarsson
    Goligoski-Oesterle
    Capobianco-Lyubushkin

    Raanta
    Kuemper

    Prospects (no particular order):

    Barrett Hayton (C)
    Victor Soderstrom (RD)
    Nick Merkley (LW, C, RW)
    Adin Hill (G)
    Ivan Prospetov (G)
    Kevin Bahl (LD)
    Kyle Capobianco (LD)
    Can Dineen (LD)

    everybody better say they are a wagon
     
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    The consensus right now is that the Coyotes are a wildcard contender which I agree with. Moving forward I think they remain as a wildcard contender personally.
     
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    Very good chance they grab a wild card.

    Solid 1A & 1B in net.

    Addressed their biggest issue of lacking a game breaker by acquiring Kessel this off-season which will help slot everyone else better in the lineup.

    Solid top 5 Dmen also.
     
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    Weakest team in the league down the middle, underrated d, I don't think they bottom out but I don't think they make the playoffs.

    I have a lot of faith in Hayton though. Hopefully he becomes a top 6 centre soon for them.

    Raanta might steal them a playoff spot.
     
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    I actually disagree with that I think they have better center depth than a few teams.

    Anaheim
    Getzlaf
    Henrique
    Steel?
    Shore
    Grant

    Minnesota
    Staal
    Koivu
    Eriksson Ek
    Rask

    Ottawa
    White
    Anisimov
    Pageau
    Tierney

    The problem is they have two 2 line centers and 2 3rd line centers. They don’t have a superstar but Schmaltz and Barrett could be a deadly 1-2 soon.
     
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    They have three defenseman on their first pairing?

    :sarcasm:
     
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    OEL might as well be considered two players. He certainly has had to put in the effort of two players combined for many years.
     
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    Fair, forgot about Minny and I'm more optimistic about Anaheim but I'm not sold on Schmaltz being able to step up beyond bring a really good 2c and Hayton should develop nicely but he's not quite on the tier of prospects I'd bank on (Glass).

    I think Arizona's winning centre piece isn't in their organization yet.
     
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    Their WAR projections are pretty awful.
     
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    Not great, not terrible.
     
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    solid defense, weird offense, least I can say is that they're a wagon
     
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    The makeup of their team is really weird, like just a bunch of parts thrown together and hoping it works. Kessel was a great get, Hammer coming back on defense is a great boost, OEL is OEL, solid goaltending tandem too. I think they're a wildcard team, I can't see them doing much damage with their center depth, though.
     
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    Going to miss the playoffs. Again.
     
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    They don't appear that perplexing to me. They miss the playoffs almost every year and probably will again this season.
     
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    Way better what people think/say. Don't see any weaknesses in their roster. Not sure is the coaching / system at the same level though.
    Even thou their young GM is top notch (way better what Leafs counterpart), not sure can their coaching staff make it work.

    Probably the best goalie duo in the NHL (money+quality combo)
    That D haves experience,youth and enough puck movement, skating, defense to be a top 3 division team.
    Offence has improved from last season, significantly.

    Looks good to me.
     
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    No, because betting against Arizona is a pretty safe bet most years.

    Just once I’d like to see them over perform rather than underperform.
     
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    They came pretty close with half of their roster in casts and braces. If they can stay healthy, I can see them making the wildcard.
     
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    I think they’re a dark horse team like the NYI or Carolina last year. They have a ton of depth and they added an elite player in Kessel which they didn’t have any other than OEL last year. They should be able to put up some points in the regular season and maybe win a round or two, but won’t be good enough to win anything meaningful.
     
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    Good team, should contend for a wild card. Still their centres have more holes than swiss cheese so that will hold them back.
     
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    lot of question marks and bad centre setup

    still could see them wildcarding
     
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    I see a lot of their games since we pick up their regional sports affiliate here. Last year, they had stretches where they looked like a bottom-level playoff team, but they really struggled to consistently put the puck in the net. They didn’t have anybody close to being “the guy.” Nobody had 20 goals nor more 50 points.

    Kessel alters that equation, but the problem is he is really the only one. On the defensive side, including in net, I think they can hang around against just about anyone. But whether they have enough on the attacking side to score enough goals at critical times to steal some games is anybody’s guess. It is going to depend on a lot of young players developing from where they were last year.

    Last year they finished four points out of a playoff spot and had one more win that Colorado. But I don’t know that Kessel alone changes that enough.

    Besides, they always seem to find a way to screw it up. I’d actually like to see that change, but somebody not named Kessel is going to have to step up to make that happen.
     
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    Mediocre, have an alright shot at the playoffs as a WC team
     
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    Not very. Kessel won’t even hit 70 points on that team. Their leading scorer had what, 45 points ? In a high scoring year too. They will have to play tight D and get killer goaltending to get anywhere .
     
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    middle of the pack imo, but they are trending up
     
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    Good enough to have a realistic shot at one of the WC spots, but don't see them anywhere close to being a legit contender.
     

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