How do you view the last 7 seasons as a Sens fan?

[Stylizer1]

Since the cup run we have had mixed results. We are pretty much a different team now and moving forward do you think we can have as successful of a run as we did when we were the model of how to build a contender?

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[ReginKarlssonLehner]

Yes. The NHL is changing. Hardwork+skill is what wins you games. That's what many of our core players have and it should help us be contender for a long time. Especially if Karlsson gets back to 100%

 

[God Says No]

An utter disaster due to our GM.

 

[jbeck5]

I wish we built it like last time. We needed to actually suck. We did a half assed rebuild.

You can call me captain hindsight all you want, but when we traded away fisher,Kelly,kovalev, etc, we should have traded spezza,Alfredsson, Phillips,Neil. We should have been bottom 5 for 3 years. Right now we would have a couple more blue chippers. More pieces to build around. Higher draft picks combined with probably close to 10 young players/draft picks acquired in dealing those players.

More teams then not are contenders by being bad for a while. That's how Ottawa got good 15 years ago, that's how Pittsburgh got good, that's how Chicago got good,etc.

You can point to Edmonton all you want, but they don't know how to build a team. They disregard defense and goaltending.

 

[SensPerpetualRebuild]

I view it as the cyclical nature of sports teams. You can't win all of the time. If you can't handle it, I suggest you find another pastime

 

[Benjamin]

Treadmill.

 

[Upgrayedd]

Since the cup run we have had mixed results. We pretty much a different team now and moving forward do you think we can have as successful of a run as we did when we were the model of how to build a contender?

Don't mean to be negative however i have a hard time seeing really any Canadian team competeing for a cup in the foreseeable future due to various reasons (taxes, climate, anonymity, cdn dollar, media, cdn pressure etc...), also i do not think we will be that powerhouse team that we were for a good run of years due to the parity and some of the reasons listed above.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

Pretty good

It's had it's ups and downs but 2012-2013 was one of the best seasons since I've started watching in 2002

Last year was a disaster but you take the good with the bad

 

[jbeck5]

Don't mean to be negative however i have a hard time seeing really any Canadian team competeing for a cup in the foreseeable future due to various reasons (taxes, climate, anonymity, cdn dollar, media, cdn pressure etc...), also i do not think we will be that powerhouse team that we were for a good run of years due to the parity and some of the reasons listed above.

The reasons you listed don't make sense as they were still there 15 years ago. We also ranked probably the same in payroll.

 

[Very Stable Genius]

Treading water and now slowly sinking.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

If we have a great year next season this will be a fun thread to revisit

 

[ChocolateLeclaire]

If we have a great year next season this will be a fun thread to revisit

Exactly.

In fact, this thread would have been funny if it was started after last season. Hyperbole would have had the same Debbie downers here declaring us a new dynasty in the making.

 

[Benjamin]

If we have a great year next season this will be a fun thread to revisit

A great year for the Sens is finishing in the last playoff spot.

 

[coladin]

Pretty good. High moments. Low moments. Expected moments. Unexpected moments.

It is a professional sporting franchise, not the Harlem Globetrotters.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

A great year for the Sens is finishing in the last playoff spot.

If the team plays good hockey I'm happy

It sounds like some of guys consider not getting home ice in the playoffs a disappointing season

 

[OmniSens]

Some good/great stuff, lots of downhill and then stalling in the mid standings. Can't seem to breakout into something more dangerous but not an easy opponent to play against.

 

[Filatov2Kovalev2Bonk]

It's been one long stretch of mismanagment, public relations disasters and mediocrity. We've been average at very best defensively and a bubble team in most seasons.

I long for a new owner and a new manager, I long for the days when all that was talked about were the playoffs and cup expectations. I long for expectations instead of just knowing we're an also ran and then hearing thta such and such a prospect is the next "X", only to have them be mediocre.

And no, I don't think this group wins a cup. Not without a new owner on board.

 

[Xspyrit]

Up and down, on par with the parity of the NHL

Expecting to be a top contender for decades is delusional.

NHL Draft and salary cap and Bettman makes sure teams can't do that. It's now everyone's turn

 

[TeamRenzo]

It's been one long stretch of mismanagment, public relations disasters and mediocrity. We've been average at very best defensively and a bubble team in most seasons.

I long for a new owner and a new manager, I long for the days when all that was talked about were the playoffs and cup expectations. I long for expectations instead of just knowing we're an also ran and then hearing thta such and such a prospect is the next "X", only to have them be mediocre.

And no, I don't think this group wins a cup. Not without a new owner on board.

Those years of cup expectations were a byproduct of sucking really bad for a number of years.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

Those years of cup expectations were a byproduct of sucking really bad for a number of years.

And UFA being at 31

 

[RedWhiteBlackGold]

This sums it up for me.

 

[pm88]

up and down really..mediocre seasons.. but a few positive moments. The series win against Montreal was a definite highlight.

currently this team is a PR disaster with the possibility of becoming a gongshow. Losing Alfie and Spezza is a terrible image thing

As much as I appreciate our owner saving this team more than 10 years ago.. he's been an extremely poor ambassador of this team. That whole Karlsson "investigation" was such an embarrassment to see made public and made us look like a mickey mouse organization

 

[Filatov2Kovalev2Bonk]

Those years of cup expectations were a byproduct of sucking really bad for a number of years.

And UFA being at 31

Sure, but we also had excellent pro scouting and development. Alfredsson was a gem, we turned the unwanted Yashin into two great pieces, we got Hoss and Havlat for years and did very well on the goaltending as well, getting cheap ticket prices on Tugnutt and Lalime and then Hasek for that one year or two.

And hey, it's not like Murray hasn't had windows to strip it bare. We could had Tavares but he chose to patch. We could have had (and were even high on) Landeskog and again chose to patch. That's kinda my point. The avenues were there and the talent was there but the willingness to just strip it down and go forward wasn't, and now we have an elite Karlsson and a bunch of mismatched players up front of varying talent levels.

We need a new direction and a real rebuild, this year would be great to get a top five pick...it could set the team up for ages.

 

[Buck Aki Berg]

I view the last seven years as an underperformance. Call me spoiled from eleven straight playoff appearances, but I kind of expect hockey in the last two weeks of April, with a second-round appearance being a coinflip. But I also get that no team is without its rough years - the Habs had the last 90s/early 2000s, the Leafs had the Ballard years, the Hawks had fifteen years of obscurity right after WWII, and then another ten up until 2009.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

The problem is we were very well run under the no-cap system because it really rewardewd great scouting

Now? Not so much because you lose control over the players you drafted much earlier and the cap is going to be driven by a select few teams that make a lot more money than everyone else combined

What happened? We are paying for the mistakes of other teams that abused the previous system, that's what happened

The smart always pay for the short-sighted's mistakes