Verbeek ( prospect = pick ) Mete ( Pick ) Telling me they couldn't turn those assets into picks at some point.
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Post-Game Talk: How do you rate the Habs TDL?
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The Great Weal
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Deangelo is a damn talented hockey player even if he sucks defensively, but he is a headcase and an asshole. Obviously something major must have happened for the Rangers paying him a shit to of money not to play.
Rated typical. MB is not a guy that swings for the fences on deadline day, lucked out with Vanek that one year being a pretty cheap rental considering Collberg never played a game in the NHL.
Not disappointed, nor am I excited. Sure Staal on paper looks nice but his game is really no where near what it was. Merrill seems like a good addition, if the team didn't already have Chiarot and Edmundson. Apparently has a nice first pass, I guess we will have to see. Gustafsson is the big question mark, has the history of being a guy that can get a lot of points, however his most recent history is that of a player about to end his NHL career.
Not disappointed, nor am I excited. Sure Staal on paper looks nice but his game is really no where near what it was. Merrill seems like a good addition, if the team didn't already have Chiarot and Edmundson. Apparently has a nice first pass, I guess we will have to see. Gustafsson is the big question mark, has the history of being a guy that can get a lot of points, however his most recent history is that of a player about to end his NHL career.
Mete was on waivers, you think Bergevin wouldn't have taken a 7th rounder 10 years from now if he could get one? He's been on the block for months. Verbeek wasn't drafted by the Habs, and he can't even hold an AHL roster spot. They couldn't get a bucket of Gator Aid for his rights.
ChesterNimitz
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Though acquiring a clearly faded Staal was an error, if Montreal makes the playoffs by one point, then the 3rd and 5th draft choices for Staal, who scored that OT goal, may become more palatable. The real issue is who was the pro-scout who recommended that Staal be picked up? That recommendation is grounds for termination.
your assuming it was a recommendation... could also have been a decision made against the recommendations of the pro scouting department. Wouldn't be the first time MB overrules his staff and goes his own merry way
Give Staal a bit of time to adjust. A year ago he would have been the second leading scorer in Montreal. Plus it's hard to put a fix on the veteran leadership value he brings. Particularly with Price and Gallagher out, and Weber and Byron sucking wind.
will be very interesting to observe what happens over the next 12 months with Mete & Gustaffsson...
my bet... Sens either get considerably more utility & re-sign Mete after next season to a mid-long term deal, or trade him this summer/next season for something in the 3rd round pick range.
Gustafsson, conversely... While I hope he defies the odds and earns both a top-4 role and a contract extension either with us or a new deal elsewhere for more than peanuts (because that would mean he comes in and actually gives us something more than the cheaper, cost-controlled Mete provided)... the more likely scenario is that he barely plays for us, goes UFA and either heads back to europe or gets signed as a 7th dman somewhere for near league-minimum.
net result... Sens will have gained a useful asset that we gave up for no real gain.
Merrill sent the little guy to the pound for adoption, not Gustafsson. That deal happened after Mete was off the roster.
Doc McKenna
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Maybe the leaf team has several PPG players and our best players are getting old and worn out and no one is a star.
You know a team that figured out just trying to make the playoff isn't good enough.
So after drafting all those little Euros the past couple years, Leafs have to spend 3 draft picks, including theirs first round pick, on an aging grunt grinder like Foligno to get them to the playoffs? Brilliant asset management.
Merill is a defensive Dman, just because the deals happened the way they did doesn't mean that Merill was to replace Mete, an offensive Dman who sucked defensively...do yo really believe that Bargain Bin decided we had too many offensive Dmen and not enough slow defensive ones, so his plan was Mete out and Merill in??...cuz although that sounds like a Bargain Bin thing to do, it would also be moronic, as more offensive Dmen we actually needed...hence why he took the gamble on the Turnstile from Philly...I'd be willing to bet the Merill deal was happening anyway, regardless of Mete...
umm you realize that roster limits and taxi squad considerations are a part of transactions, right? Had MB not intended or been working on the Gustafsson trade, there would've been no functional reason to waive Mete. He was waived at that time because MB was adding, or trying to add, another roster dman.
Yup, it was; Foligno is exactly what they needed and they were willing to pay the price in the hopes of playoff success...Bargain Bin is not, hence why we've missed the playoffs in 3 of the last 5 seasons and the only reason we made them last year was because they added 8 spots to make it 24 teams, in which we nabbed...you guessed it...24th...but if you're happy with mediocrity, you must luv you some Bargain Bin...
How were contract negotiations??...hope they didn't come up shorter than expected...
OnceWasNot
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He deserves a D to represent the utter insignificance of any of these moves. A step above failure. This team doesn't have the talent to compete in or in a normal year likely even make the playoffs, so acquiring minor depth players for picks is pointless. Those picks are not a significant loss either given they're late rounders and the organisation can't draft and develop prospects anyway. MB has put himself in a situation where he has few options that won't attract a lot of criticism. He tries to make the team better in the short term by acquiring rentals, it doesn't matter because the team isn't good enough at the top end to justify such moves. He sells, he gets criticised for dumping assets from a team that looks like it will squeak into the playoffs. He does nothing, he gets criticised from one angle for not trying to bolster a likely playoff bound team, and another angle for not getting returns on assets he's likely to lose or have to trade soon. It's a mess. Like someone in another thread stated, they've burned the crops with their drafting and development and MB has salted the earth with those contracts. Major top down organisational overhaul is needed before trade deadline day will start to matter again.
ChesterNimitz
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Adjusted or otherwise, Staal has all the mobility of a tool shed. Whether he has anything left offensively is really questionable. He is, however, a huge liability defensively as he is two or more strides behind the play.
Huge liability defensively is how we roll in Habsland...Bargain Bin thinks one Danault fixes all defensive issues...
...and instead, both were lost for nothing...cuz we have the worst GM in hockey...Jim Benning is a genius compared to Bargain Bin...
They like my work around the rim, but I'm too slow getting up and down the floor. No deal forthcoming.How were contract negotiations??...hope they didn't come up shorter than expected...
OldCraig71
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Why are we rating anything from Bergevin after 9 f***ing years of shit?
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