Is he gonna get traded to Edmonton?Larkin makes up for all of it
Cause it sure as shit ain’t worth it for Oiler fans lol
Is he gonna get traded to Edmonton?Larkin makes up for all of it
You make a fair point...Is he gonna get traded to Edmonton?
Cause it sure as shit ain’t worth it for Oiler fans lol
The Oilers incredibly bad drafting outside of lottery picks basically since the beginning of the Decade of Darkness is why they haven't already won the cup with McDavid.
He's still on pace to collect his nhlpa pension which seemed laughable a couple years ago.Tinordi isn't even AHL good. We're just that bad.
What Pastrnak was still on the board?Larkin makes up for all of it
No, it's not. It's bad, but not Holland-bad. Active NHLers, since 2014, without counting '22 and '23 :Habs scouting is even worst. Check from 2008-2021.
Sakic is the worst and it's not close. At most you can give him credit for not passing on the consensus picks in Makar/Rantanen.
I don't think he deserves credit for making the consensus pick when a 10 year old would have made the same pick.During his 9 years as GM, he picked 3 times in the top 5 and got two of the top 3 players in the NHL today, plus Byram. And he also made the single best 10 OA pick since Selanne in 1988. I agree he hasn't done much beyond those 4 guys, but there's teams out there that would kill to have drafted any single one of them, let alone all 4.
I don't think he deserves credit for making the consensus pick when a 10 year old would have made the same pick.
What Pastrnak was still on the board?
40 years. They had arguably the best drafting ever during their first few years in the league, best back to back draft classes without a doubt, then they have absolutely shit the bed. Just brutal.The Oilers have probably had the worst drafting in the league for the past 30 years.
Holland has made it worse.
Habs scouting is even worst. Check from 2008-2021.
Bergevin/Timmins is unrivalled
Galchenyuk was a bad pick. Rielly and Forsberg were still on the boardDoesn't seem comparable:
Gallagher (147th overall) - 731 GP, 413 pts
Beaulieu (17th overall) - 471 GP, 98 pts
Hudon (122th overall) - 134 GP, 41 pts
Galchenyuk (3rd overall) - 654 GP, 354 pts
Lehkonen (55th overall) - 504 GP, 229 pts
Evans (207th overall) - 247 GP, 84 points
Segachev (9th overall) - 475 GP, 257 points
Mete (100th overall) 248 GP, 45 pts
Pezzetta (160th overall) 158 GP, 36 points
Poehling (25th overall) 196 GP, 56 points
Primeau (199th overall) 35 GP, likely Habs back-up for the next few years
Kotkaniemi (3rd overall) 302 GP, 155 pts
Ylonen (35th overall) 101 GP, 28 pts
Romanov (38th overall) 268 GP, 55 pts
Harris (71th overall) 112 GP, 26 pts
So there's quiet a few of late round steals there. Not stars, but getting a guy like Evans or Gallagher late is a huge win. Their big mistakes are their high picks, but they were unforunate to pick high when they did. Sure they could have picked Brady instead of KK, but the 5th and 6th picks were Hayton and Zadina, and the surprise was that they didn't pick Zadina, not Thachuk. Galchenyuk is still the 5th highest scoring player from that draft, he was the consensus pick and the player drafted after him was Griffin Reinhart. I wouldn't really attribute these too too much to scouting errors.
Then of course, poor asset management. They traded away the good picks, so we don't associate them much with the team. But Sergachev and Romanov are great defenseman and Lehkonen is flourishing in Colorado. At least they turned Romanov into Dach. But most significantly, other than the flops on the top 3 players, they were drafting pretty late in the 1st because the team was making the playoffs. They drafted in the top 16 three times during that time period, and picked in the top 25 six times over a decade.
You also handpicked a time frame immediately after they drafted Subban, Pacioretty and McDonagh in one year, and a year prior to drafting Caufield and other roster players in Struble, Harvey-Pinard and Guhle and Roy, and some other prospects that are likely to be NHLers like Mailloux and Farrell. Same scouting team and management, so no other reason why to do that other than make your point look better. Definitely not worse than Holland.
Forsberg was picked 8 picks later at 11th. There was no world where they were taking him. McKenzie also had Reilley at 8th. A lot of people were surprised he was taken over Dumba.Galchenyuk was a bad pick. Rielly and Forsberg were still on the board
No, it's not. It's bad, but not Holland-bad. Active NHLers, since 2014, without counting '22 and '23 :
Juulsen, Sergachev, Evans, Poehling. Kotkaniemi, Ylonen, Struble, Harris, Caufield, Pezzetta, RHP, Guhle
Off the top of my head.
And a bunch of guys from 2019 to 2023 that are promising.