Confirmed with Link: Holland to Arizona for conditional pick

[Barilko14]

Holland 2pts in his first game and Seth Griffith is playing on the first line in FLA. Meanwhile we have Smith. FLA and ARZ are huge proponents of ADV stats and its paying off atleast in these two players.

What does Holland have to do with ADV stats? He's had one season of CF% of more than 50%.

 

[Barilko14]

Babcock has his own system and you have to fit it in his way and it's hard to see players like Grabner go to a team like the Rangers and excel only because they have a different system that fits the way they play, same with Kessel and it plays to their talents but seeing Holland go, I think he too can excel on another team but Babcock has to fit young players going forward with the Leafs and form a team for the future, there are going to be many more players sent packing that we think can do a good job but won't fit Babcock's criteria.

Grabner played more minutes with us than he's getting with the Rangers. The difference in production is the current unsustainable 20% S% he's sporting right now. If he shot 20% last year he would have ended up with 23 goals.

He probably would have been offered a contract if not for the half a dozen rookies knocking on the door.

 

[Rogie]

Grabner played more minutes with us than he's getting with the Rangers. The difference in production is the current unsustainable 20% S% he's sporting right now. If he shot 20% last year he would have ended up with 23 goals.

He probably would have been offered a contract if not for the half a dozen rookies knocking on the door.

Yeah Grabner, wow, I remember he was getting breakaways like a dime a dozen but never converting. It got to the point, where I thought the opp stopped caring when he got behind their dmen anymore. MAN, he had so many breakaways and didn't score it too funny.

 

[deletethis]

I don't see Smith working too well for us whereas they seem to be doing better.

Seth Griffith has 10 SOG and 2 assists in 11 games in FLA. I'm not going to be losing any sleep over this.

 

[Ricky Bobby]

Babcock has his own system and you have to fit it in his way and it's hard to see players like Grabner go to a team like the Rangers and excel only because they have a different system that fits the way they play, same with Kessel and it plays to their talents but seeing Holland go, I think he too can excel on another team but Babcock has to fit young players going forward with the Leafs and form a team for the future, there are going to be many more players sent packing that we think can do a good job but won't fit Babcock's criteria.

And there will also be some players Babs gets more out of it.

Grabner has an unsustainable shooting %.

Players sometimes have hot stretches or get lucky. People also were upset about giving up on Panik but what's he done since a half dozen or so games where everything went his way? I remember the same thing about Stalberg years ago.

 

[Barilko14]

And there will also be some players Babs gets more out of it.

Grabner has an unsustainable shooting %.

Players sometimes have hot stretches or get lucky. People also were upset about giving up on Panik but what's he done since a half dozen or so games where everything went his way? I remember the same thing about Stalberg years ago.

Don't forget about Colbourne when he would go on the odd hot streak!

 

[Pi]

I don't really care one way or another about fourth line players. They are recyclable, Holland is better than Smith but in the grand scheme of things, neither of them has a future here.

 

[Budsfan]

Grabner played more minutes with us than he's getting with the Rangers. The difference in production is the current unsustainable 20% S% he's sporting right now. If he shot 20% last year he would have ended up with 23 goals.

He probably would have been offered a contract if not for the half a dozen rookies knocking on the door.

And there will also be some players Babs gets more out of it.

Grabner has an unsustainable shooting %.

Players sometimes have hot stretches or get lucky. People also were upset about giving up on Panik but what's he done since a half dozen or so games where everything went his way? I remember the same thing about Stalberg years ago.

The big difference is Babcock had him anchored on the 4th line and he is a much better scoring threat than a lot of players we had here at the time.

One has to wonder if we were in Tank mode and some players are and were miscast in their roles on the team and maybe still are.

 

[Barilko14]

The big difference is Babcock had him anchored on the 4th line and he is a much better scoring threat than a lot of players we had here at the time.

One has to wonder if we were in Tank mode and some players are and were miscast in their roles on the team and maybe still are.

Grabner played almost the entire 2nd half of the season on the Leafs "top line" with Leo and Kadri. That's why his minutes ended up being pretty decent over the course of the season.

 

[Ciao]

Yeah Grabner, wow, I remember he was getting breakaways like a dime a dozen but never converting. It got to the point, where I thought the opp stopped caring when he got behind their dmen anymore. MAN, he had so many breakaways and didn't score it too funny.

It's kind of evened out if you put last year and this year together: then, nothing went in; now, everything does. Sucks for the Leafs; super good luck for the Rangers. Probably cost Graber a ton of dough too.

 

[Budsfan]

Grabner played almost the entire 2nd half of the season on the Leafs "top line" with Leo and Kadri. That's why his minutes ended up being pretty decent over the course of the season.

This is the lineup I remember.....

 

[Phion Keneuf]

This is the lineup I remember.....

The legendary lineup that got us Matthews

 

[Barilko14]

This is the lineup I remember.....

So you didn't watch the Leafs at all last season??

I think I trust my recollection more than yours then.






That's a preseason game.

 

[frankthetank91]

This is the lineup I remember.....

That line up changed pretty quickly,

I remember:

Grabner-Kadri-Leo
JVR-Bozak-Parenteau
Winnik-Spaling-Matthias-Boyes?

Getting hazy, was a rough year.

 

[Warden of the North]

I think we're done.