Discussion in 'NHL Draft - Prospects' started by Holly Gunning, Sep 24, 2006.
what? No Toews?
Here was already in this section: http://hockeysfuture.com/article.php?sid=9078&mode=threaded&order=0
Did you want him on the list twice?
no Pouliot or Setoguchi in the top 50 at all. But Ward and Lehtonen still being eligible messes things up a bit.
He was #19.
I'm a Blues fan, and Schwarz has no business being on this list. None - not at this point in time, not after the last year and his poor showing at the Blues training camp for rookies, the rookie tournament in Traverse City, and by most accounts his play at the main training camp.
Yeah, he hasn't developed as hoped so far. Suprised Brian Lee wasn't even mentioned. He is just as good a prospect as Bourdon, Staal and Barker.
brule > getzlaf. But its a good list. Well done
No idea why Noah Welch couldn't make the list, even as a HM.
Getzlaf is way too high.
Even though I am a Bruins fan, I thought that Latendresse would at least make the top 50. Maybe he really is overhyped.
Personnally I think he is a player. Not sure what happened here.
Que the Hab riots.
lol, he isnt a top 50 prospect. His ceiling is like 40 goals, but he wont be much of a playmaker and isnt going to be a player who can score without a good center.
What the heck is Semin doing that high?
He was absolute garbage in Russia last year by most accounts, and has character problems written all over him. To have him ahead of guys who were top-5 picks in the most recent draft is ridiculous and reflects poorly on the credibility of an otherwise-solid list.
I probably wouldn't have him top-25, and can see several guys who didn't even make the list (Penner, Green, Pouliot) whom I'd take over him without thinking twice.
Hmmm no Pouliot, Youd think he can at least crack the top 50 list, seems to me hes being based on his play in the OHL regular season, yet when it seems to count hes done pretty good, he had a good playoffs last year..was good in the WJC, was good in training camp last year and from what Ive heard good in this years training camp, all this and we hear he still has tons of untapped potential,..i dont blame people for not being too high on him and can understand why some would label him as a possible bust, but surely hes done enough things to make the top 50... just my two cents worth.
Overall question, how can a player HF lists as the teams best prospect not make the top 50 list when 2 other guys ranked below him make the list?
Wow, Brian Lee doesn't even get an honourable mention...
Remind me again what Staal and Bourdon have done so far to be considered such better prospects, besides play in Canada of course?
HF's own prospect criteria: "if a goaltender has played in 45 NHL games before the completion of the season of his 24th birthday, that player will be considered graduated to the NHL"
Cam Ward has played in 51 NHL games: 28 regular season and 23 playoffs. He should no longer be considered a prospect and should not be on the list. Even if you only consider games started, it's 25 and 21, still greater than the prospect limit.
Am I missing something here?
Lehtonen and Ward are still prospects? Geez, I think something may be wrong with the criteria.
FWIW, he's been tearing it up at the Caps' training camp/scrimmages, and has been the best player there (Ovechkin included). He's also proven he can produce in the NHL, unlike most of the prospects ranked. And I'm not sure where you get the "character problems written all over him" comment. I'm assuming you just don't know too much about his situation.
Wow, what a bunch of whiners.
I'll just repost something I posted in another thread.
"Among other things, the NHL does not recognize playoff games for purposes of the Calder Trophy, for scoring titles, for game-time accrued for purposes of a player's pension, etc. We use the NHL's standard for games-played. If the NHL changes their standard, we probably would also."
ah yes, Buffalo's impressive group of foward/D prospects don't crack the top 50 at all. I guess Buffalo better give up drafting, because they suck at it.
Dude, where did you find that avatar! That's awesome. Go Milton!
I think I deserve an honorable mention at least...
yes you do
They only use NHL season games, not the play-offs. Getzlaf and Perry are in the same boat, they're only a few games under the limit. It came up on the Ducks board when we had our last top-20 IIRC.
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