GDT: Hockeyball: Bruins at Devils

[Devils Dominion]

A 2nd for him this year? Not worth it.

A 2nd for him next year, especially if he's declined even further and doesn't wanna re sign after that, I'd definitely take a 2nd for him next year.

He'd still be worth a 2nd next year, barring a Zubrus like plunge.

This year's draft is supposed to be deep.

 

[TheUnseenHand]

We can get a 2nd for Patty, Lou has to make that deal if available.

The Islanders held on to their stars to long in the 80s for sentimental reasons and look how long it took them to rebuild.

Stars

Not moving Elias is not going to set this franchise back any farther than it already has been. And missing out on a second round pick is very likely not going to be something we look back on and say "that could have turned this organization around". And after Patty there is literally no other star we have to worry about.

You can make that argument for Parise, Clarkson, Neidermayer, etc., but not for a guy on the edge of retirement who may fetch you a pick that has a tiny probability of becoming an impact player in the NHL someday.

 

[Devilsgrl35]

A 3rd has very minimal value, a 4th is essentially worthless. It's a scratch-off lottery ticket.

The draft is such a crapshoot. A 7th rounder could be as good if not better than a first rounder.

 

[Emperoreddy]

The draft is such a crapshoot. A 7th rounder could be as good if not better than a first rounder.

It's not that much of a crap shoot. That's a really exterme example.

Your 3rd-7th rounds do have extremely low chances of becoming NHL players historically.

 

[Devils Dominion]

The draft is such a crapshoot. A 7th rounder could be as good if not better than a first rounder.

You get exceptions (Lundy), but statistically that statement is proven false

 

[Unknown Caller]

Johnny Gaudreau

Pavel Datsyuk. No one said it doesn't happen, the odds are just horrendous. Want me to list 1,000 guys who never played an NHL shift?

 

[Bleedred]

Johnny Gaudreau

I know how you feel about Conte and crew, do you really trust them to pick someone like that with the 4th round pick though?

 

[Devils Dominion]

I know how you feel about Conte and crew, do you really trust them to pick someone like that with the 4th round pick though?

IMO, it's unlikely Conte will be at the draft table in June.

 

[Emperoreddy]

I know how you feel about Conte and crew, do you really trust them to pick someone like that with the 4th round pick though?

You don't trust anyone. The odds are completely against you. Yea it happens but it's like 10 out of a 100 players. If that.

 

[devilsblood]

I've never once wanted Patty benched and it would of been foolish to do it.

And how is trading for cory a squeeze? Marty was 40 and we had no one to replace him and marty was still the starter.

Let's get it straight here. There is no talk about trading Elias for a true young top 6 forward. It's dumping Elias for 2nd or 3rd picks that won't replace him.

It's just not the same. Apples and oranges.

We brought in a good young goalie, who was going to want to play, who was looking to get a big contract. We did this one year after Marty helmed yet another run at the cup. This was Marty Brodeur, who was 30 wins or so from 700, and we brought in his replacement knowing full well this was stepping all over his toes.

There are differences in the situation, but imo the biggest difference is Marty was a much bigger player. That guy is an absolute legend. And we squeezed him right out the door.

Again, not advocating a dump here, but I find it hard to say we need to treat our legendary franchise players with the utmost care when we just recently shoved ole Marty out the door.

 

[Unknown Caller]

The draft is such a crapshoot. A 7th rounder could be as good if not better than a first rounder.

Statistically incorrect. You could step in **** in the 7th round, but the odds are less than 1%. That's like saying a powerball ticket is as good as a Harvard business degree. Yeah, maybe you hit the powerball and wind up more successful than you would have with a Harvard degree, but the chances of it happening are about zero.

 

[Unknown Caller]

IMO, it's unlikely Conte will be at the draft table in June.

Guarantee you this doesn't happen.

 

[devilsblood]

you know what kind of player you might draft in the 4th rnd and say, hey he turned out to be a pretty good pick? Jordan Too Too. 98th overall in 2001.

 

[Devilsgrl35]

You get exceptions (Lundy), but statistically that statement is proven false

Fair enough. I would never trade someone like Patty, unless he asked for it, for just picks. Any other fringe player on this team though I would.

 

[None Shall Pass]

*Sees people talking about trading Patty*

*Turns around and throws self into a volcano*

 

[Devils Dominion]

Guarantee you this doesn't happen.

It's my conjecture, but what makes you so sure?

 

[Devils Dominion]

Fair enough. I would never trade someone like Patty, unless he asked for it, for just picks. Any other fringe player on this team though I would.

It's possible he has.

 

[Unknown Caller]

you know what kind of player you might draft in the 4th rnd and say, hey he turned out to be a pretty good pick? Jordan Too Too. 98th overall in 2001.

You know how many other guys from that round turned into regular NHL players? Two. Ray Emery and Christian Ehrhoff.

 

[Devils Trap]

Too say A 7th is just as likely to get a player like a 1st is ridiculous

 

[Devils Dominion]

You know how many other guys from that round turned into regular NHL players? Two. Ray Emery and Christian Ehrhoff.

Patty would get us a 1st or a 2nd & 3rd.
Not a 4th.

 

[SeidoN]

*Sees people talking about trading Patty*

*Turns around and throws self into a volcano*

my opinion exactly. the return wouldnt be worth it

 

[Unknown Caller]

Patty would get us a 1st or a 2nd & 3rd.
Not a 4th.

I didn't say he would only bring a 4th.

 

[Emperoreddy]

Cory still arguing he was interfered with on the second goal.

 

[Unknown Caller]

It's my conjecture, but what makes you so sure?

First, if Conte was forced to leave, Lou would leave as well. Secondly, there's no way you have a scouting staff evaluate players for an entire year and go through the process of setting up a draft board and then fire them right before the draft. How would the new scouting staff even begin to get their **** together, nevermind make selections?

 

[AfroThunder396]

Unless we're getting a damn fine young forward or a 1st+ back I'm not even going to entertain the notion of trading Elias.

But of course, no one will trade that for a declining 38 year old with therm left.