Hockey History: Please vote for the 5 best players (Crosby, OV, etc.)

Please vote for the 5 best players

  • Sidney Crosby

    Votes: 132 84.6%
  • Dominik Hasek

    Votes: 137 87.8%
  • Eddie Shore

    Votes: 25 16.0%
  • Nicklas Lidstrom

    Votes: 121 77.6%
  • Jaromir Jagr

    Votes: 141 90.4%
  • Red Kelly

    Votes: 7 4.5%
  • Denis Potvin

    Votes: 21 13.5%
  • Jacques Plante

    Votes: 11 7.1%
  • Frank Nighbor

    Votes: 4 2.6%
  • Mark Messier

    Votes: 29 18.6%
  • Alex Ovechkin

    Votes: 120 76.9%

  • Total voters
    156
  • Poll closed .

libertarian

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If Messier played today he'd easily be the best player. Talk about recency bias!

Messier was not only a high scoring C but he was also one of the best power forwards of all time and probably the best captain of all time.

Messier
OV
Jagr
Crosby
Plante
 

bambamcam4ever

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Feb 16, 2012
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If Messier played today he'd easily be the best player. Talk about recency bias!

Messier was not only a high scoring C but he was also one of the best power forwards of all time and probably the best captain of all time.

Messier
OV
Jagr
Crosby
Plante
Messier has like one era-adjusted season over 100 points. He's a lesser tier than Crosby, OV, or Jagr.
 
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McRpro

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Aug 18, 2006
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If Messier played today he'd easily be the best player. Talk about recency bias!

Messier was not only a high scoring C but he was also one of the best power forwards of all time and probably the best captain of all time.

Messier
OV
Jagr
Crosby
Plante
If Messier played today he would have the bleeding hearts demanding that the league ban him for life. :laugh:
 

Sidney the Kidney

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Jun 29, 2009
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If Messier played today he'd easily be the best player. Talk about recency bias!

Messier was not only a high scoring C but he was also one of the best power forwards of all time and probably the best captain of all time.

Messier
OV
Jagr
Crosby
Plante

Crosby and Ovechkin have superior trophy cases and individual totals (when accounting for era) than Messier does. What does Messier have over either guy other than Cups, of which he kind of had the benefit of playing 2C behind a guy named Wayne that the other two didn't.
 

amnesiac

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Eddie Shore wouldve had 8 Norrises along wih his 4 Harts. I mean the guy played just 10 years before Howe and Richard. No reason to dismiss Shore any more than them.

Crosby
Ovie
Jagr
Hasek
Shore
 
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um

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Eddie Shore wouldve had 8 Norrises along wih his 4 Harts. I mean the guy played just 10 years before Howe and Richard. No reason to dismiss Shore any more than them.

Crosby
Ovie
Jagr
Hasek
Shore

I see 7 first team all stars for Shore, so you’re at least 1 off.

how many of those was he 1st in votes for?
 
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amnesiac

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I see 7 first team all stars for Shore, so you’re at least 1 off.

how many of those was he 1st in votes for?
You're not including 1929 and possibly 1928

This was discussed in depth in the HOH Dmen list and most agreed he would've had 8
 

amnesiac

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So how many all star teams was he first place in?
Well he was 3rd in Hart voting in 1928 and 1929, so he was surely the best Dman for at least 6 years..... I don't think we know the voting for the other years, but I'm willing to bet he was 1st at least twice in his non Hart years, to make 8. But again, this was discussed amongst several posters who seem to know quite a bit about hockey history.

Whatever the case, Lidstrom getting more votes here is fine, but it's not because people took the time to research Shore, that's for sure. It's always difficult to compare eras, but if we easily put Howe and Richard Top 10, then Shore can't be far behind
 
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