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Noticed Keith Tkachuk hasn't gotten any hof love. Dorset he deserve enshrinement?
Nope.
Noticed Keith Tkachuk hasn't gotten any hof love. Dorset he deserve enshrinement?
Noticed Keith Tkachuk hasn't gotten any hof love. Dorset he deserve enshrinement?
- I am not saying that you advocated for Andreychuk in the past - the point was that you pretty much did the opposite. You're only defending the induction now that he was inducted. It gives the reader the impression that you'd still be defending the decision to omit him, if he had indeed been omitted this year.
- What special talent did Roy Conacher have that needed to be recognized? I get that he had the offensive numbers but by most accounts that is all he had, and based on your comments during the wingers project you're not exactly a fan, so I don't see how bringing his case up helps your cause here.
- Your last post simply states what I am saying: You think it was right not to induct Gilmour, and now you think it was right to do so.
Noticed Keith Tkachuk hasn't gotten any hof love. Dorset he deserve enshrinement?
Noticed Keith Tkachuk hasn't gotten any hof love. Dorset he deserve enshrinement?
Absolutely he should be in the Hall of Fame based on the standard that has been set
I'm not sure if I would have too much qualms about Tkachuk getting in. I know LW wasn't particularly strong position when he was playing but his All-Star record is rather good.
2nd, 2nd, 3rd, 3rd, 4th, 4th, 4th
He wouldn't be a strong induction but I could get behind him getting in.
To put that in perspective, from '81 - '97, Dino Ciccarelli was 5th in goals behind Gretzky, Gartner, Lemieux and Kurri
Dino drops to 14th in scoring over that period
Tkachuk also has a Richard and was twice named a 2nd team all star, while Dino has no such accomplishments
ciccarelli has 17 more playoff goals than tkachuk has points.
ciccarelli has 11 more powerplay goals in the playoffs than tkachuk has goals.
Dino didn't have to play his prime years during the DPE
141 playoff games for Dino, only 89 for Tkachuk
And Dino didn't have to play his prime years during the DPE
141 playoff games for Dino, only 89 for Tkachuk
And Dino didn't have to play his prime years during the DPE
FWIW,
I'm in Toronto today. I am going to the Hockey Hall of Fame today around 12pm. If anybody feels like joining me, it would be great. Then we can post a selfie against the Phil Housley's stand.
Also tonight at 7pm I am playing a "singing poetry" show. PM me for more info if you want.
Nothing "cowboy" about me. But if you combine Johnny Cash with Tom Waits... you get the idea. . Wish you were here though. Something tells me, I'd enjoy chatting with you greatly.Nope. Nowhere near Toronto Sentinel but have fun.... "Singing Poetry"?... you some kinda Singin Cowboy Poet? Only genre I'm aware of that does that.
Well, I have the unpopular opinion that 500 goals is automatically HOF worthy, but it's more than just that. Unlike Andreychuk, you can't criticize Tkachuk for the era he played in, most of it after the high scoring era. You cannot say he was never a top scorer. He did have the misfortune of leading the league in goals a couple of years before the Rocket Richard trophy's inception. Then there's the two Second All Star team selections.
I believe Keith Tkachuk is qualified for the HOF and this is a snub that I am optimistic the voters will fix in the future.
if rick nash has four more seasons exactly the same as the last two, will he be a hall of famer?
he's the closest comparable to tkachuk that i can think of. maybe the biggest difference is tkachuk had the good fortune to peak when the LW position was weaker, where it was basically kariya and then you pick between tkachuk or john leclair. nash's best seasons were a golden age of the LW: he finished third behind ovechkin and benn; fourth once to naslund, kovalchuk, and elias; fourth another time to ovechkin, parise's best season, and kovalchuk; and fifth behind ovechkin, zetterberg, kovalchuk, and heatley. but otherwise they were the same physically gifted, potentially dominant, disappointing player.
if rick nash has four more seasons exactly the same as the last two, will he be a hall of famer?
he's the closest comparable to tkachuk that i can think of. maybe the biggest difference is tkachuk had the good fortune to peak when the LW position was weaker, where it was basically kariya and then you pick between tkachuk or john leclair. nash's best seasons were a golden age of the LW: he finished third behind ovechkin and benn; fourth once to naslund, kovalchuk, and elias; fourth another time to ovechkin, parise's best season, and kovalchuk; and fifth behind ovechkin, zetterberg, kovalchuk, and heatley. but otherwise they were the same physically gifted, potentially dominant, disappointing player.
He led the league in goals once and was otherwise never top 5. He was a great goal scorer but not so much that he should get in on that alone (the way Selanne or Bure would), and he doesn't have much else going for him. I don't think anyone cares about the Rocket Richard distinction, considering you know exactly who would've won and the general reverence for previous league leading goal scorers.Well, I have the unpopular opinion that 500 goals is automatically HOF worthy, but it's more than just that. Unlike Andreychuk, you can't criticize Tkachuk for the era he played in, most of it after the high scoring era. You cannot say he was never a top scorer. He did have the misfortune of leading the league in goals a couple of years before the Rocket Richard trophy's inception. Then there's the two Second All Star team selections.
I believe Keith Tkachuk is qualified for the HOF and this is a snub that I am optimistic the voters will fix in the future.