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Robert Gordon Orr

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How else would you explain a "9" on his sweater? Sawchuk is the only Detroit goalie of the Gordie Howe era to have a number that contained either "9" or "6".

1) You can clearly see part of the uniform of a Toronto player under the goalies glove, so it's hardly a warmup. Also a giveaway is the way the crowd follows the action

2) I highly doubt it that Sawchuk switched his catching glove from left to right, so I think you can eliminate Sawchuk from the equation

3) I also think that it's not a 9, even if it looks that way. Compare the overall shape of the number to Gordie Howe's number 9. The jersey is wrinkly in a way that I think it's another number. It's either Crozier or Edwards.

One way is to compare the goalie pads between the three goalies, Crozier, Edwards and Sawchuk worn that season.

There's another photo from that same game on the HHOF site.

Howe, Gordie -- Gallery -- Honoured Player -- Legends of Hockey
 

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- The Red Wings switched to red gloves in the 1967-68 season.

- Gordie wore an A during the 1970-71 season. The Leafs also changed their uniforms that same year (see other picture of the same game: Howe, Gordie -- Gallery -- Honoured Player -- Legends of Hockey). So our time frame is 3 seasons (68, 69, 70)

- Between 67-68 and 69-70, the Wings didn't play the Leafs in the playoffs. So that is a regular season game.

- Between 67-68 and 69-70, only two Wings goalies catching right played a RS game. Roger Crozier and Roy Edwards

- In this time frame, Crozier wore 2 numbers (1, 30) while Edwards only wore 30. So what we're seeing here is probably the top a folded zero.

- Crozier wore 30 in 67-68. He only played at Maple Leafs Garden on Mar. 9 1968 and on Dec. 21 1968 (split)

- In the 2 seasons he wore 30, Edwards played 6 in Toronto. (Dec. 21 1968, Jan. 18 1969, Mar. 22 1969, Nov. 22 1969, Feb. 21 1970, Mar. 11 1970)

- Bruce Gamble was in net for every single of those games. Those sideburns are totally Gamble.

So this leaves us with one of those :

Mar. 9 1968
Dec. 21 1968
Mar. 22 1969
Nov. 22 1969
Feb. 21 1970
Mar. 11 1970


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Howe, Gordie -- Gallery -- Honoured Player -- Legends of Hockey

In this picture taken from the same spot, you can spot some of the same people in the stands with different clothes. We can probably assume that those were season tickets owners. If those two photograph were shot during the same season, it would be 1969-70 since Dave Keon is captain. So one of those two games would be a good bet.

Feb. 21 1970
Mar. 11 1970
 
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How else would you explain a "9" on his sweater? Sawchuk is the only Detroit goalie of the Gordie Howe era to have a number that contained either "9" or "6".

I see. So he was in fact ambidextrous & would randomly switch his glove hand with his blocker? And in 20yrs no one ever noticed?..... Brilliant. I like it. Wow. Who knew? Explains a lot. Legend of Terry Sawchuk just went Inter------Stellar. Forget Dr Strangeglove, Wild Biil.... Or.... Maybe the photographer developed the negative in reverse somehow? Like the plate is somehow flipped? Similar to what you see on youtube sometimes when someones pirated a film & in posting it, like an American movie, everything in reverse. Guy driving a car on the right hand side rather than left but the films shot in the States, American car, roads. Ever seen that? Most annoying.
 
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I think I see Henry Kissinger watching the game, third plexiglass panel from the left. That places it during the Nixon administration.

I get that this is sarcasm, probably directed towards my post. But hey, at least I tried to help the OP. You know like...the purpose of this thread. But glad that you helped. I wish I had done that much.
 
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I get that this is sarcasm, probably directed towards my post. But hey, at least I tried to help the OP. You know like...the purpose of this thread. But glad that you helped. I wish I had done that much.

Now now Weztex.... were all friends, just havin some fun here with the Mystery Photo. I enjoyed DJ Man's posts as have others. Lighten up. We Can Work it Out....
 

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I think I see Henry Kissinger watching the game, third plexiglass panel from the left. That places it during the Nixon administration.

Damn, that does look like Kissenger.

Looks like game footage from the crowds reaction. Doubt the goalie has a 9 in his number, I think that 9 is a combo of 2 folded numbers, it looks like it is on a angle compared to the shoulder patch on Gordie's 9. The goalies 9 would be on a angle. Has to be a combo of a 2 digit number.
 
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I get that this is sarcasm, probably directed towards my post. But hey, at least I tried to help the OP. You know like...the purpose of this thread. But glad that you helped. I wish I had done that much.

No intent to disparage your analysis, just an observation. I couldn't see a need to add a funny face icon, but maybe I should have.
 
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- The Red Wings switched to red gloves in the 1967-68 season.

- Gordie wore an A during the 1970-71 season. The Leafs also changed their uniforms that same year (see other picture of the same game: Howe, Gordie -- Gallery -- Honoured Player -- Legends of Hockey). So our time frame is 3 seasons (68, 69, 70)

- Between 67-68 and 69-70, the Wings didn't play the Leafs in the playoffs. So that is a regular season game.

- Between 67-68 and 69-70, only two Wings goalies catching right played a RS game. Roger Crozier and Roy Edwards

- In this time frame, Crozier wore 2 numbers (1, 30) while Edwards only wore 30. So what we're seeing here is probably the top a folded zero.

- Crozier wore 30 in 67-68. He only played at Maple Leafs Garden on Mar. 9 1968 and on Dec. 21 1968 (split)

- In the 2 seasons he wore 30, Edwards played 6 in Toronto. (Dec. 21 1968, Jan. 18 1969, Mar. 22 1969, Nov. 22 1969, Feb. 21 1970, Mar. 11 1970)

- Bruce Gamble was in net for every single of those games. Those sideburns are totally Gamble.

So this leaves us with one of those :

Mar. 9 1968
Dec. 21 1968
Mar. 22 1969
Nov. 22 1969
Feb. 21 1970
Mar. 11 1970


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Howe, Gordie -- Gallery -- Honoured Player -- Legends of Hockey

In this picture taken from the same spot, you can spot some of the same people in the stands with different clothes. We can probably assume that those were season tickets owners. If those two photograph were shot during the same season, it would be 1969-70 since Dave Keon is captain. So one of those two games would be a good bet.

Feb. 21 1970
Mar. 11 1970

This is great stuff.



By the by, did they always keep the green light on during play during that era? A small detail I've never noticed before.
 

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Good eye tarheel. That "green light"? Ectoplasm. Visitors. Them. You see Dead People apparently. ...
There are some former posters I miss. I was gonna pm @Canadiens1958 (rest in peace) and @Killion the other day. Maybe @tarheelhockey will enjoy this post.

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