Prospect Info: HFStars 2019 Prospect Rankings - General Discussion

[Smelling Salt]

FWIW Scott Wheeler at the Athletic put out his top 50 prospects list. Only Star is J-Rob, at 37.

Wheeler: The top 50 drafted NHL prospects ranking, 2019...

 

[M88K]

FWIW Scott Wheeler at the Athletic put out his top 50 prospects list. Only Star is J-Rob, at 37.

Wheeler: The top 50 drafted NHL prospects ranking, 2019...

Which is pretty much spot on, with how bad our drafting is.

 

[Kcb12345]

 

[LT]

So six of the top seven and seven of the top nine prospects have been acquired in the last three drafts. Another from a later draft. Do we think the prospect pool is weak, or is the mantra of poor drafting starting to shift?

 

[Smelling Salt]

So six of the top seven and seven of the top nine prospects have been acquired in the last three drafts. Another from a later draft. Do we think the prospect pool is weak, or is the mantra of poor drafting starting to shift?

I think it's become more...average? Which I'll take.

I'm still not crazy about the Dellandrea pick but he seems like a great kid so I'm not gonna get emo over it...yet. I sure wish he could play in the AHL this season though.

 

[Henderson33]

Harley vs Back & Eriksson happening on TSN for those that are interested.

 

[FirstRowUpperDeck]

So six of the top seven and seven of the top nine prospects have been acquired in the last three drafts. Another from a later draft. Do we think the prospect pool is weak, or is the mantra of poor drafting starting to shift?

Could it be "recent bias?" I think we tend to value high round picks higher when first picked, and still shiny new.

 

[LT]

Could it be "recent bias?" I think we tend to value high round picks higher when first picked, and still shiny new.

I don't think so - I'd imagine recency bias would moreso be choosing 2019 draftees over 2017 draftees. What I'm talking about is what seems to be a major shift in drafting eras, almost.

 

[Kcb12345]

Early impressions of the one period of this Canada vs Sweden game that I've watched so far:

Eriksson - definitely has skill and skates pretty well, but he needs to learn when to and when not to try and dangle around everybody and he's gotta make the safer plays. Constantly turning the puck over cause he tries to take 2 or 3 guys on all alone. By the way, he uses his size even less than Nichushkin based on what I've seen so far. Craig Button talked about it on the broadcast and said the guy can score goals and finish plays, but he needs to be smarter with the puck and learn to use his size.

Back - I know it's only one period of one game, but he has been a really nice surprise. I've never seen or really heard much about him but he actually looks really solid.. Radek Faksa type definitely (maybe even a little more offensive potential? Idk tho). Very strong on the puck and smart with it as well. It's one period but everytime he was on the ice it felt like he was always making something happen in the offensive zone or was always noticeable in some way.

Harley - He impressed me as well..I believe he just picked up an assist on the empty net goal that Canada just scored too and it happened because of a nice play by him. Solid pick and I've seen several people saying he's been one of Canada's best players

 

[Zapp]

Yeah Eriksson has been really disappointing to me this tournament. Makes me re-think my evaluation on him.

 

[Satan]

Not going to let a short tournament change my opinion based on 2 years

 

[Zapp]

Not going to let a short tournament change my opinion based on 2 years

Still would like to see more from him with Sweden lacking offense.

Btw it's crazy how far down Caamano has fallen. Didn't he almost make the roster to start last season?

 

[MrHeiskanen]

Still would like to see more from him with Sweden lacking offense.

Btw it's crazy how far down Caamano has fallen. Didn't he almost make the roster to start last season?

Hitch liked him, not Monty.

 

[LT]

1. Jason Robertson
2. Jake Oettinger
3. Ty Dellandrea
4. Thomas Harley
5. Denis Gurianov
6. Riley Damiani
7. Gavin Bayreuther
8. Tye Felhaber
9. Joel L’Esperance
10. Albin Eriksson
11. Joesph Cecconi
12. Ben Gleason
13. Joel Kiviranta
14. Emil Djuse
15. Riley Tufte
16. Oscar Back
17. Jacob Peterson
18. Colton Point
19. Adam Mascherin
20. Ben Brinkman

After doing a fair amount of reading up/watching whatever's up on Youtube on these prospects (especially the Europeans), I'm updating my list:

1. Jason Robertson
2. Ty Dellandrea
3. Jake Oettinger
4. Thomas Harley
5. Riley Damiani
6. Denis Gurianov
7. Tye Felhaber
8. Albin Eriksson
9. Ben Gleason
10. Adam Mascherin
11. Joel L'Esperance
12. Gavin Bayreuther
13. Oscar Back
14. Joel Kiviranta
15. Jacob Peterson
16. Colton Point
17. Joesph Cecconi
18. Riley Tufte
19. Nicholas Porco
20. Ben Brinkman

I'm probably higher on the UDFA AHLers (except for Gleason whom a lot of you seem to like) than most, probably because I've been able to actually watch them several times and I like their games, even as lower-end contributors. Their potential growth is definitely lower due to age, though. I'm not particularly high on Mascherin, that's just a gut feeling, but the stats are enough to push him up for now.

 

[AveryStar4Eva]

I suppose I’ll post a list here

1. Ty Dellandra
2. Jason Robertson
3. Thomas Harley
4. Jake Oettinger
5. Denis Gurianov
6. Riley Damiani
7. Albin Eriksson
8. Oscar Back
9. Ty Felhaber
10. Joel L’Esperance
11. Joeseph Cecconi
12. Riley Tufte
13. Ben Brinkman
14. Joel Kiviranta
15. Adam Mascherin
16. Colton Point
17. Ben Gleason
18. Jacob Peterson
19. Curtis Douglas
20. Nicolas Porco

1-5 Potential top six/four/starter
6-9 Potential middle six
10-14 Potential bottom six
15-20 Question marks/AHL

I know I’ll get heat for having some of these grinders ahead of Mascherin and Gleason, but they are more likely to take on depth roles where coaches value defensive play and size.

 

[MrHeiskanen]

Ben Brinkman and Tufte above Kiviranta, Masch, Point, Gleason, Peterson is pretty funny.

 

[LT]

I wish we would've just taken the compensation for not signing Tufte.

 

[Smelling Salt]

I wish we would've just taken the compensation for not signing Tufte.

Agreed. Nill should have tufte it out.

 

[LT]

Agreed. Nill should have tufte it out.

boo

 

[Smelling Salt]

Feel free to wield the banhammer.

Seriously though, Tufte seems brutal on paper but I guess we'll see how he does on what should be a talented young team in CP.

 

[joshik]

I suppose I’ll post a list here

1. Ty Dellandra
2. Jason Robertson
3. Thomas Harley
4. Jake Oettinger
5. Denis Gurianov
6. Riley Damiani
7. Albin Eriksson
8. Oscar Back
9. Ty Felhaber
10. Joel L’Esperance
11. Joeseph Cecconi
12. Riley Tufte
13. Ben Brinkman
14. Joel Kiviranta
15. Adam Mascherin
16. Colton Point
17. Ben Gleason
18. Jacob Peterson
19. Curtis Douglas
20. Nicolas Porco

1-5 Potential top six/four/starter
6-9 Potential middle six
10-14 Potential bottom six
15-20 Question marks/AHL

I know I’ll get heat for having some of these grinders ahead of Mascherin and Gleason, but they are more likely to take on depth roles where coaches value defensive play and size.

Worst list so far

 

[LT]

Worst list so far

Coming from the guy who has Gury in the top 3 spots

 

[joshik]

One article and now everybody thinks that Ty is better than Robertson

 

[joshik]

Coming from the guy who has Gury in the top 3 spots

Its my obsesion i cannot help it

 

[joshik]

It can be pool of bust outside Rob we don't really know how will others pan out