No, there is definitely a chance he makes it. I should have been more precise there. Started my post on the premise of "no future in the NHL" only to illustrate the point that there still could be good reasons to vote for him.
Prospect Info: HFCBJ 2022 Summer Prospect Rankings: #15
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what the heck is the knock against knazko? surprised he hasn’t been added to the prospect list yet.
Skating - at least in my view. I've watched his games in the WHL, the struggles in breakouts and defending rushes have been evident at times.
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Everyone sleeping on Aidan Hreschuk is going to be eating they $13 dirty eBay cbj hat.
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It's the chl sportsman of the year award for meAdd Makarov
Still stumped by the Dumais love. Granted, we're talking the middle of our prospect group but I just don't buy into a small guy that's a perimeter player and isn't a great skater. Just doesn't feel like an NHL future even with high end IQ. That's just me complaining so I fit in with this group.
Some notable winners include :
Robertson, Suzuki, Girard, Reinhart, Stone, and Carter.
But seriously, with his scoring ability, he's always a threat to make it. He just has to push through some adversity(his size), so there's not a large change he makes it... But if he does I expect a big boom. We just signed a small kid who went late who didn't really have a chance to make it either...
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He did just score over 100 points in the CHL. Even if he was on a stacked team that’s nothing to sneeze at. He’d probably be a near top 5 prospect on some other teams.Add Makarov
Still stumped by the Dumais love. Granted, we're talking the middle of our prospect group but I just don't buy into a small guy that's a perimeter player and isn't a great skater. Just doesn't feel like an NHL future even with high end IQ. That's just me complaining so I fit in with this group.
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Including the Jackets a few years ago after we traded such top prospects as Abramov and Davidsson to the Senators for Duchene.
Sure Dumais has a lot of work to do, but if he puts it all together he'll be an impactful top 6 player.Add Makarov
Still stumped by the Dumais love. Granted, we're talking the middle of our prospect group but I just don't buy into a small guy that's a perimeter player and isn't a great skater. Just doesn't feel like an NHL future even with high end IQ. That's just me complaining so I fit in with this group.
What's the ceiling for the rest? Looks like a bunch of replacement level 3rd pair Dmen to me. Dolz is the exception, but he has just as much work to do as Dumais to be a NHLer.
High risk player with top 6 ceiling > Medium risk player with 3rd pair ceiling
Dumais could either become one of the best players on the team or a TJ Tynan type guy who barely see's NHL ice time but could be a producer in lower leagues. Hes got unreal passing ability and vision but also anyone at that size is going to be fighting an uphill battle. If his skating improves some more it would go a long way in improving his outlook as a legit NHL prospect. The Mooseheads have been good at pumping out stars for awhile now, I hope Dumais is the next one.
I like seeing those smaller guys make it though, always have a chip on their shoulders so when they do make it a lot of them end up being a special player because of the mentality and the skills they develop to get by without the size
I like seeing those smaller guys make it though, always have a chip on their shoulders so when they do make it a lot of them end up being a special player because of the mentality and the skills they develop to get by without the size
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For the record, I don't think I said I didn't think Dumais had a chance, I just don't agree with him being considered above others that have more desirable traits (not just size) and what appears to be a higher probability of contributing. To be fair, I think he's another good prospect in the pipeline of a deep pipeline but I see a perimeter player that's very small and not apparently willing to go to the high traffic areas but has a great hockey IQ (that's a big plus). I put TFW above him in my mind. If he doesn't make it as a scorer, he isn't going to make it and I think that's a big if. Whereas others can contribute in other ways if not scorers. Again, just an opinion. I hope he does make it. Time will tell. Just a little surprised with his placement in our middle prospect group.
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From Scott Wheeler (I copied and pasted from 1st Ohio Battery article): Blue Jackets Prospect Report: The Answers To Your Questions About Kent Johnson, David Jiricek, Denton Mateychuk, And Jordan DumaisAdd Makarov
Still stumped by the Dumais love. Granted, we're talking the middle of our prospect group but I just don't buy into a small guy that's a perimeter player and isn't a great skater. Just doesn't feel like an NHL future even with high end IQ. That's just me complaining so I fit in with this group.
"I love (Dumais') game," Wheeler said. "The knock on (Dumais) was that he's five-eight and his skating stride looks a little clunky. It looks a little awkward. And when you're small and slow, teams typically write you off and I think the beauty of his game is that he's not slow. It might look weird, but he is not slow. I spoke a lot with the people in Halifax about him over the course of that season.
"He led that team in scoring. He led that team in takeaways. He led that team in retrievals. He was their best player along the wall. He won all his races. The little details that you maybe don't expect out of a smaller player, they're all there and I think that elevates him in a way because he's got the skill offensively. He's going to make plays in the offensive zone. He's dangerous. He's creative. There's some cleverness to his game.
"All of that is great. Really high grades. One of the smartest players in the draft. He won the CHL's Most Sportsmanlike Player award this year.
"There are just a lot of little things to like about him. And I think because of the concerns about the skating and size, he was just overlooked by default and teams didn't do enough due diligence on how he was creating all those points he scored. This is a kid who had the most productive draft-eligible season in the QMJHL since Sidney Crosby.
"This was a very, very impressive year for a 17-year-old. He had 109 points. That does not happen often in the ‘Q’. At least not for players that age.
"So yeah, just an impressive, impressive player, and I ran into him in St. John. He was at the CHL awards in St. John when I was there, for the Memorial Cup to accept the Most Sportsmanlike award, and he looked bigger than five-eight as well. At least just in terms of running into him. I'm five-foot-ten, five-foot-ten and a half and I don't think he was much shorter than me.
"So I think he might actually be an inch taller than five-eight at this point. So we'll see, but I'm a big fan. Love that pick. That was one of my favorite day two picks."
