HFBoards Top 31 NHL Wingers

[Todd from Leduc]

I would rank McDavid at the top because even though he’s the leagues best Center, he plays Wing on the face offs and is so good at retrieving the puck after the draw.

 

[Krewe]

I would rank McDavid at the top because even though he’s the leagues best Center, he plays Wing on the face offs and is so good at retrieving the puck after the draw.

........What? That makes no sense

 

[Advanced stats]

OK sorry, but where is Anders Lee.

No 60 point guys on the list. Definitely not a top 30 winger by any logic.

 

[Advanced stats]

Benn, Kessel, Laine really stick out as not belonging on the list

Kessel has outscored Skinner by over 60 points in the last two seasons. By metric, Skinner shouldn't be close either.

Honestly Kessel could be higher for me. He's a PPG guy.

 

[Aladyyn]

Kessel has outscored Skinner by over 60 points in the last two seasons. By metric, Skinner shouldn't be close either.

Honestly Kessel could be higher for me. He's a PPG guy.

Kessel is the forward version of Ristolainen

 

[Advanced stats]

Kessel is the forward version of Ristolainen

Well that's a little over the top.

As if Skinner is anything to brag about in his own zone?

 

[ccman68]

Well that's a little over the top.

As if Skinner is anything to brag about in his own zone?

Skinner is bad but Kessel is one of the worst defensive players in the league.

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

Laine is way too high after the season he had. There are some players ranked below him who are clearly better

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

Sidney. Crosby.

And? So apparently Crosby can turn any scrub into a 40 goal, 76 point scorers? Is that why Guentzel is literally the first winger who has ever done that next to Crosby?

 

[MrThomas]

Laine should be much higher. The best goal scorer in the league with Ovi

 

[Snippit]

And? So apparently Crosby can turn any scrub into a 40 goal, 76 point scorers? Is that why Guentzel is literally the first winger who has ever done that next to Crosby?

Not saying Guentzel isn’t good but he’s propped up quite a bit by Sid

Crosby got Kunitz on the Olympic team...he has the ability to elevate his line mates to a ridiculous degree.

Eichel is no Crosby and Skinner has previously potted 37 playing on Carolina’s third line.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

Not saying Guentzel isn’t good but he’s propped up quite a bit by Sid

Crosby got Kunitz on the Olympic team...he has the ability to elevate his line mates to a ridiculous degree.

Eichel is no Crosby and Skinner has previously potted 37 playing on Carolina’s third line.

"Propped up quite a bit by Sid" infers that Guentzel's totals wouldn't be anywhere close to what they were if you swapped centers. You really think if Guentzel was with Eichel instead, he'd, what, drop 10 goals and 20 points?

Again, no winger who has played with Crosby has ever scored 40 goals or 76 points (unless someone wants to get smart and include Geno in there). So it's not as easy as just plop a 20 goal, 40 point guy on Sid's wing and he'll turn him into a 40 goal, 75+ point guy.

Guentzel's not being given enough credit for what he brings to the table, which is much better playmaking ability than Skinner to go along with relatively equal goal scoring (even if you want to give Skinner a slight edge due to multiple seasons of 30+ goals).

 

[Snippit]

"Propped up quite a bit by Sid" infers that Guentzel's totals wouldn't be anywhere close to what they were if you swapped centers. You really think if Guentzel was with Eichel instead, he'd, what, drop 10 goals and 20 points?

Again, no winger who has played with Crosby has ever scored 40 goals or 76 points (unless someone wants to get smart and include Geno in there). So it's not as easy as just plop a 20 goal, 40 point guy on Sid's wing and he'll turn him into a 40 goal, 75+ point guy.

Guentzel's not being given enough credit for what he brings to the table, which is much better playmaking ability than Skinner to go along with relatively equal goal scoring (even if you want to give Skinner a slight edge due to multiple seasons of 30+ goals).

“No winger who has played with Crosby has ever gotten 76 points or 40 goals”.

You act as if this statement holds a great deal of value. I mean okay yes, I think Guentzel is better than Chris Kunitz and Pascal Dupuis?

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

“No winger who has played with Crosby has ever gotten 76 points or 40 goals”.

You act as if this statement holds a great deal of value. I mean okay yes, I think Guentzel is better than Chris Kunitz and Pascal Dupuis?

No, I'm pointing out that a player doesn't simply put up the type of numbers Guentzel did last year simply by virtue of getting to play next to Crosby.

Guentzel's numbers last year are better than anything Skinner has ever produced. So unless you're insisting that's only because Crosby is worth 10+ goals and 20+ points to any winger he plays with, you're not giving Guentzel enough credit for his own season.

 

[Snippit]

No, I'm pointing out that a player doesn't simply put up the type of numbers Guentzel did last year simply by virtue of getting to play next to Crosby.

Guentzel's numbers last year are better than anything Skinner has ever produced. So unless you're insisting that's only because Crosby is worth 10+ goals and 20+ points to any winger he plays with, you're not giving Guentzel enough credit for his own season.

I'd be interested to see Guentzel's stats away from Crosby.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

I'd be interested to see Guentzel's stats away from Crosby.

When he's away from Crosby, he's on the 3rd or 4th line playing with 3rd or 4th line centers. How is that an accurate portrayal of what he would do with another 1st line center just not named Crosby? It's not like when he plays on the third line, he's playing with a Jack Eichel caliber center.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

I'd be interested to see Guentzel's stats away from Crosby.

Though, fun fact, in 2017-18 (since it's a bigger sample size of him being away from Crosby), Guentzel's production rates were actually better with Riley Sheahan at 3C than they were with Crosby.

Crosby (653:03 at 5on5) - 5G, 12A, 17P
Sheahan (252:21 at 5on5) - 6G, 5A, 11P

That's 2.62 P/60 with Sheahan and only 1.57 P/60 with Crosby.

 

[Aladyyn]

Things Guentzel is better at than Skinner:
Having a higher number in the "A" column on NHL.com

Things Skinner is better at than Guentzel:
Everything not mentioned above

 

[Tobias Kahun]

He spent an entire season on mcdavids line. (This next part is not to far fetched of thinking though). Unless mclellan is an idiot through and through and had mcdavid on the wing and draisaitl as the center then i can only guess is yes draisaitl is a winger. Same kind of thing as with pavelski.

Entire? Might want to check your stats on that one.

 

[Evgeny Oliker]

How is Hertl not on this list?

Or is he being counted as a Center?

 

[LT]

How is Hertl not on this list?

Or is he being counted as a Center?

Center.

 

[carparkno1]

No 60 point guys on the list. Definitely not a top 30 winger by any logic.

But 40 goals the year before doesn't count?

 

[Advanced stats]

But 40 goals the year before doesn't count?

40 goals is impressive, but other than that he had a poor year. 22 assists, -25, and couldn't follow it up, and will never hit 40 again. Sounds like a product of Taveres to me.

 

[JasonRoseEh]

I'd have Ovechkin above Kane, but otherwise you can't really complain about this list. Vastly superior to the lolNHL list.

 

[JasonRoseEh]

Laine should be much higher. The best goal scorer in the league with Ovi

Highly Debatable and not the Ovechkin part.