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All figures are cap numbers, not salaries.

Official 2015-16 salary ceiling: ........71,400,000
Projected 2015-16 cap spending: ....66,820,000
Projected offseason cap space: .........4,580,000



PITTSBURGH PENGUINS
Forward.................
|
Pos.
|
Age
|
2015-16
|
2016-17
|
2017-18

Evgeni Malkin|
C​
|
28​
|
9,500,000​
|
9,500,000​
|
9,500,000​

Sidney Crosby|
C​
|
27​
|
8,700,000​
|
8,700,000​
|
8,700,000​

Phil Kessel|
RW​
|
27​
|
6,800,000​
|
6,800,000​
|
6,800,000​

Patric Hornqvist|
RW​
|
28​
|
4,250,000​
|
4,250,000​
|
4,250,000​

Chris Kunitz|
LW​
|
35​
|
3,850,000​
|
3,850,000​
|
UFA

David Perron|
LW​
|
26​
|
3,812,500​
|
UFA

Pascal Dupuis|
RW​
|
36​
|
3,750,000​
|
3,750,000​
|
UFA

Brandon Sutter|
C​
|
26​
|
3,300,000​
|
UFA

Sergei Plotnikov|
LW​
|
25​
|
925,000​
|
RFA
Defense.................
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Pos.
|
Age
|
2015-16
|
2016-17
|
.2017-18

Kris Letang|
D​
|
28​
|
7,250,000​
|
7,250,000​
|
7,250,000​

Rob Scuderi|
D​
|
36​
|
3,375,000​
|
3,375,000​
|
UFA

Ian Cole|
D​
|
26​
|
2,100,000​
|
2,100,000​
|
2,100,000​

Ben Lovejoy|
D​
|
31​
|
1,100,000​
|
UFA

Olli Maatta|
D​
|
20​
|
894,167​
|
RFA

Derrick Pouliot|
D​
|
21​
|
863,333​
|
863,333​
|
RFA
Goalie............,.......
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Pos.
|
Age
|
2015-16
|
2016-17
|
.2017-18

Marc-Andre Fleury|
G​
|
30​
|
5,750,000​
|
5,750,000​
|
5,750,000​

Jeff Zatkoff|
G​
|
28​
|
600,000​
|
UFA



WILKES-BARRE/SCRANTON PENGUINS
Forward...............
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Pos.
|
Age
|
2015-16
|
2016-17
|
2017-18

Tyler Biggs|
RW​
|
22​
|
894,167​
|
RFA

Oskar Sundqvist|
C​
|
21​
|
700,833​
|
708,333​
|
RFA

Conor Sheary|
LW​
|
23​
|
667,500​
|
667,500​
|
RFA

Josh Archibald|
RW​
|
22​
|
659,167​
|
659,167​
|
RFA

Scott Wilson|
LW​
|
23​
|
655,000​
|
RFA

Bryan Rust|
RW​
|
23​
|
652,500​
|
RFA

Anton Zlobin|
LW​
|
22​
|
608,333​
|
RFA

Matia Marcantuoni|
C​
|
21​
|
608,333​
|
608,333​
|
RFA

Jean-Sebastien Dea|
C​
|
21​
|
585,000​
|
585,000​
|
RFA

Tom Kuhnhackl|
LW​
|
23​
|
575,000​
|
RFA

Kevin Porter|
C​
|
29​
|
575,000​
|
UFA

Kael Mouillierat|
LW​
|
27​
|
575,000​
|
UFA
Defense...............
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Pos.
|
Age
|
2015-16
|
2016-17
|
2017-18

Harrison Ruopp|
D​
|
22​
|
650,833​
|
RFA

Niclas Andersen|
D​
|
27​
|
625,000​
|
UFA

Tim Erixon|
D​
|
24​
|
600,000​
|
RFA

David Warsofsky|
D​
|
25​
|
600,000​
|
UFA

Reid McNeill|
D​
|
23​
|
575,000​
|
575,000​
|
RFA

Will O'Neill|
D​
|
27​
|
575,000​
|
UFA

Steve Oleksy|
D​
|
29​
|
575,000​
|
UFA
Goalie..................
|
Pos.
|
Age
|
2015-16
|
2016-17
|
2017-18

Matt Murray|
G​
|
21​
|
620,000​
|
620,000​
|
RFA

Tristan Jarry|
G​
|
20​
|
589,167​
|
589,167​
|
589,167​



UNRESTRICTED FREE AGENTS
Player........................
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Pos.
|
Age
|
2014-15
|
News and notes

Paul Martin|
D​
|
34​
|
5,000,000​
| Signed with San Jose (4 years, $4.85M per)

Christian Ehrhoff|
D​
|
32​
|
4,000,000​
|Hitting the market, looking to sign with a contender

Daniel Winnik|
LW​
|
30​
|
1,300,000​
| Signed with Toronto (2 years, $2.25M per)

Maxim Lapierre|
C​
|
30​
|
1,100,000​
|Won't be offered a new deal, per Renaud Lavoie

Steve Downie|
RW​
|
28​
|
1,000,000​
| Signed with Arizona (1 year, $1.75M)

Thomas Greiss|
G​
|
29​
|
1,000,000​
| Signed with N.Y. Islanders (2 years, $1.5M per)

Jayson Megna|
RW​
|
25​
|
874,125​
| Signed with N.Y. Rangers (1 year, $700k)

Blake Comeau|
LW​
|
29​
|
700,000​
| Signed with Colorado (3 years, $2.4M per)

Craig Adams|
RW​
|
38​
|
700,000​
|I believe the term is "seppuku" -- Look it up, Harvard Boy

Adam Payerl|
RW​
|
24​
|
626,667​
|Did not receive qualifying offer

Nick D'Agostino|
D​
|
25​
|
625,000​
|Did not receive qualifying offer

Taylor Chorney|
D​
|
28​
|
550,000​
| Signed with Washington (1 year, $700k)

Andrew Ebbett|
C​
|
32​
|
550,000​
| Signed with SC Bern (NLA)

Bobby Farnham|
LW​
|
26​
|
550,000​
|Group 6 UFA who wants to return to the Penguins

Nick Drazenovic|
C​
|
28​
|
550,000​
|Injuries may cost him some money on his next 2-way deal

Pierre-Luc Letourneau-Leblond|
RW​
|
30​
|
550,000​
|One of many casually discarded AHL goons

Eric Hartzell|
G​
|
26​
|
550,000​
|Did not receive qualifying offer



RESTRICTED FREE AGENTS
Player........................
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Pos.
|
Age
|
2014-15
|
News and notes

Beau Bennett|
RW​
|
23​
|
900,000​
|Received qualifying offer, name hasn't been in trade talks

Brian Dumoulin|
D​
|
23​
|
831,667​
|Received qualifying offer, no long exempt from waivers

Ian Cole|
D​
|
26​
|
825,000​
| Re-signed with Penguins (3 years, $2.1M per)

Dominik Uher|
C​
|
22​
|
601,667​
|Has the makings of a serviceable fourth-liner

Tom Kuhnhackl|
LW​
|
23​
|
598,333​
| Re-signed with Penguins (1 year, $575k)

Reid McNeill|
D​
|
23​
|
575,000​
| Re-signed with Penguins (2 years, $575k per)



SIGNED PROSPECTS
Player
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Pos.
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Age
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Current Team
|
Contract



UNSIGNED PROSPECTS
Player​
|
Pos.
|
Age
|
Current Team (League)

Anthony Angello|
F​
|
19​
|Cornell (ECAC)

Dane Birks|
D​
|
19​
|Michigan Tech (WCHA)

Teddy Blueger|
F​
|
20​
|Minnesota State (WCHA)

Blaine Byron|
F​
|
20​
|Maine (HEA)

Jake Guentzel|
F​
|
20​
|Nebraska-Omaha (NCHC)

Troy Josephs|
F​
|
21​
|Clarkson (ECAC)

Sam Lafferty|
F​
|
20​
|Brown (ECAC)

Jaden Lindo|
F​
|
19​
|Owen Sound (OHL)

Sean Maguire|
G​
|
22​
|Boston University (HEA)

Nikita Pavlychev|
F​
|
18​
|Des Moines (USHL)

Alexander Pechurskiy|
G​
|
25​
|Khabarovsk (KHL)

Ryan Segalla|
D​
|
20​
|Connecticut (HEA)

Dominik Simon|
F​
|
20​
|HC Plzen (ELH)

Daniel Sprong|
F​
|
18​
|Charlottetown (QMJHL)

Jeff Taylor|
D​
|
21​
|Union (ECAC)

Frederik Tiffels|
F​
|
20​
|Western Michigan (NCHC)
 
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Randy Butternubs

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Pascal Dupuis or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love Gardening

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Also, be sure to add "Sergei" in front of "Plotnikov" when doing a Google image search.
 

Jacob

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in response to someone in the previous thread- I think Sundqvist will be okay on the 4th line because he only projects to be a 3rd liner. Hopefully the line will be better than previous seasons and it'll play more too. And maybe if we sign a faceoff/PK specialist to center it like Slater or Goc, we can throw Sid or Geno out with the 4th line for at least half of their ES shifts. I agree that Bennett would be wasted on the line.
 

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Honestly, Zack Smith would be a great addition to the pens bottom 6. Good on draws, good on the pk, plays physical, can also play LW. And he's got a decent amount of skill. He wouldn't cost much and has a decent cap hit.
 

Ugene Magic

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Breaking away from the "we know what's best for Dupuis" bit.

If everyone thinks Sutter is traded, who's taking the RHS draws?

Especially if Sundqvist isn't going to be a regular center and is he going to be a staple on the PK?

Who's available for those duties?
 

FunkySeeFunkyDo

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Breaking away from the "we know what's best for Dupuis" bit.

If everyone thinks Sutter is traded, who's taking the RHS draws?

Especially if Sundqvist isn't going to be a regular center and is he going to be a staple on the PK?

Who's available for those duties?

Fehr and Santorelli and they are the picks of the bottom 6 litter.
 

Boocock

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Breaking away from the "we know what's best for Dupuis" bit.

If everyone thinks Sutter is traded, who's taking the RHS draws?

Especially if Sundqvist isn't going to be a regular center and is he going to be a staple on the PK?

Who's available for those duties?
Eric Fehr is available. 449 wins, 414 losses, right-handed shot. Not Santorelli - he was barely better than Matthias.
 

FunkySeeFunkyDo

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Eric Fehr is available. 449 wins, 414 losses, right-handed shot. Not Santorelli - he was barely better than Matthias.
Fehr and Santorelli are right handed centers with good possession numbers. I'm not so concerned about face offs. Fehr was only 46% in 2013.
 

penzweiser

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I really think we should just look at keeping Sutter. Offer him 3.5 m for 3 years. He'll be in his prime by the end and I think his pk, defensive acumen and face off prowess is very valuable to this team. Put a couple guys good at possession on his line like Dupuis and plotnikov.

Perron-Crosby-Hornqvist
Bennett-Malkin-Kessel
Plotnikov-Sutter-Dupuis
Kunitz(try to trade)-Sundqvist-Wilson

Honestly I'd see if we can get someone that can play fast and tough for the bottom six in a trade with Kunitz. I'd also love Stewart instead of Bennett.
 

Boocock

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Fehr and Santorelli are right handed centers with good possession numbers. I'm not so concerned about face offs. Fehr was only 46% in 2013.
Santorelli's possession numbers were disappointing (-7 SAT, -4.9 SAT REL, -5 USAT, -5 USAT REL), and you were responding to a post that specifically addressed RHS draws (Santorelli was a 45% FO guy). He did put up 33 points in 79 games. He's 6'0".

Meanwhile, Fehr...
1. 52% FO
2. 16 SAT
3. -1.3 SAT REL
4. 15 USAT
5. -1.1 USAT REL
6. 33 points in 75 games
7. 6'4"
 

djt153

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Do any sort of stats show sutter as a great pker or is that predominantly steiggy driven?
 
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Boocock

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so any sort of stats show sutter as a great pker or is that predominantly steiggy driven?
He's a better even-strength defender then most people give him credit for, as almost every player that spent at least 100 minutes on the ice with him last season performed worse defensively w/o him (the exceptions are Letang and Maatta). Some of the contrasting figures were eye-opening. He's also an offensive black hole (nearly every player also performed better offensively w/o him).

But while he's great at turning defense into offense on the PK, the only player w/ a worse GA60 figure than Sutter on the PK was Scuderi.

EDIT: On that note, the good news is that Sutter actually performed at above a 50% CF rate w/ Kunitz and Bennett as his wings. That might be a solid combo to look at.
 

Black Label

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There is no reason to keep someone just because they can PK. Any player on the roster can learn to kill penalties. Sutter's 'elite' PK skills are not worth having to deal with him at ES.
 

Big McLargehuge

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We've long had more PKers than we could actually use. I'm not worried about finding others to do it. We have fringer NHL/AHLers who should be well above average at it (Rust popping to mind immediately).
 

Ugene Magic

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Fehr and Santorelli and they are the picks of the bottom 6 litter.

Eric Fehr is available. 449 wins, 414 losses, right-handed shot. Not Santorelli - he was barely better than Matthias.

Fehr and Santorelli are right handed centers with good possession numbers. I'm not so concerned about face offs. Fehr was only 46% in 2013.

As long as there are options. It would be kind of absurd to send away Sutter without a replacement who can handle those aspects of the game If you can get him to sign here.

We have to be able to better the situation, either it being for cap, or for better offensive abilities. Pretty much Sutter.

He would be a great 3rd/4th line C candidate if he'll come cheap enough.
 

eXile59

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There is no reason to keep someone just because they can PK. Any player on the roster can learn to kill penalties. Sutter's 'elite' PK skills are not worth having to deal with him at ES.

Well he can also score around 20 goals.

My biggest problem with Sutter will be he is crappy at possession and more importantly he doesn't use his wingers.

Your centers need to be able to get it to your wingers at least on occasion.
 

penzweiser

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There is no reason to keep someone just because they can PK. Any player on the roster can learn to kill penalties. Sutter's 'elite' PK skills are not worth having to deal with him at ES.

He just needs some puck possession guys on his line.
 

djt153

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Well he can also score around 20 goals.

My biggest problem with Sutter will be he is crappy at possession and more importantly he doesn't use his wingers.

Your centers need to be able to get it to your wingers at least on occasion.
Play sutter at right wing?
 

Riptide

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Anyone still think theres any chance at all that Pens sign Semin?

If we by some miracle were able to get rid of kunitz i think we might. But as it is now, no.

...and how exactly would Semin be an improvement?

Both are coming off injuries but at least we know where to stand for with Kunitz, better production assured imo.

I'd like them to, but as I said lastnight, I don't think JR is going to sign someone to any amount of money (and Semin or Fehr or any of the other FA's are still likely to get 2-4m) until he has a deal in place to move Kunitz or Sutter.

Semin was actually trending upwards as last season went on... in spite of his production. And if I had to choose between the two (AS or CK), I would take Semin hands down - even if the cap hit was the same. Why? Well I think offensively, Semin on this roster would do better than Kunitz. Assuming his wrist isn't completely ****ed (and his stats show that's not likely the case), then I have more faith on him going back to form then Kunitz figuring out how to train so he can get back into form. Then there's the fact of the term. Semin - almost regardless of what he'll sign for cap wise will be a 1 yr contract. Kunitz has 2 years, and if he doesn't bounce back (I'm not holding my breath), trading him with whatever type of NTC Shero gave him will only get harder.

Ideally JR trades Kunitz (MTL?) for whatever (futures, young guy, etc), and then signs Fehr. If he can swing it cap wise, Semin too. Then he has a replacement for Sutter and doesn't need a top 6 player back in return, and thus could move Sutter for the best return possible (futures, picks, young guys, w/e). We'd likely save on cap, get some futures, and have a fairly skilled roster.

A lot of right hand shots, but I could 'live' with that. :D

Hornqvist - Crosby - Kessel
Perron - Malkin - Semin
Dupuis - Fehr - Bennett
Plotnikov - XXXXX - XXXXX
 
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Riptide

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A Scuderi buyout gives us significant cap room, should we need it.

I thought the buyout period was over?

Unless we take someone to arbitration (and I believe that's over) or we get access to the 2nd buyout window if one of our players goes to arbitration (and I'm not sure that player elected arbitration opens that window), then yeah it's over.

Regular buyouts can happen at any time they choose.

Unfortunately there's some very specific windows for buyouts. The NHLPA doesn't want players getting bought out whenever... as it would impact their chances at getting another contract.
 

billybudd

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Honestly, Zack Smith would be a great addition to the pens bottom 6. Good on draws, good on the pk, plays physical, can also play LW. And he's got a decent amount of skill. He wouldn't cost much and has a decent cap hit.

Is he available?


Do any sort of stats show sutter as a great pker or is that predominantly steiggy driven?

Yes. I'm not going to look them up just now, but yes, he's an excellent penalty killer, statistically. Leads in shorties over the last two years, all metrics are solid or better (not that there's any agreement on what metrics matter on the PK).
 
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