Speculation: HF Hawks fan pulse: Fire JC?
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ChiHawks10
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There are so many threads in the last two days... 
I'm not on the fire JC train, yet. I'm starting to lean that way, only because it seems like this team has no desire to play for him, but I'm still not fully in support of it. And if he were to be fired, it would 100% be unfair to him, but probably necessary, at that point.
Should probably be an "Undecided" poll option KBS.
I'm not on the fire JC train, yet. I'm starting to lean that way, only because it seems like this team has no desire to play for him, but I'm still not fully in support of it. And if he were to be fired, it would 100% be unfair to him, but probably necessary, at that point.
Should probably be an "Undecided" poll option KBS.
Hawkaholic
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Yeah, was just coming in to say, I am completely on the fence. 1 leg over each side, with my balls being crushed.
Kaners Bald Spot
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Done.There are so many threads in the last two days...
I'm not on the fire JC train, yet. I'm starting to lean that way, only because it seems like this team has no desire to play for him, but I'm still not fully in support of it. And if he were to be fired, it would 100% be unfair to him, but probably necessary, at that point.
Should probably be an "Undecided" poll option KBS.
AmericanDream
Thank you Elon!
didn't the last one get closed from BK because we have a f***ing thread in the coaches name to discuss....good f***ing lord take a break....
Styles
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There are so many threads in the last two days...
Everyones patience is wearing thin.
ChiHawks10
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Little different thread, honestly. I don't mind seeing poll numbers on who is for and against him being fired currently.
Kaners Bald Spot
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Styles
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AmericanDream
Thank you Elon!
I am just confused by all these idiotic threads that are being discussed in....ALL the other threads...
Kaners Bald Spot
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By all means, continue posting in the other thread for discussion. The purpose of this is to put a number on HF Hawks opinion on JC.
Salvaged Ship
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There should be a thread discussing why we are discussing threads that are similar threads to other threads that are being discussed in multiple other threads and not in the original threads instead.
b1e9a8r5s
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Honestly, I'm kind of indifferent at this point, so I guess I'll go undecided. If they fired him today, I would understand. On the other hand he's had 1 full year, so I get why they wouldn't.
I think if the team continues to no show he will get canned though.
I think if the team continues to no show he will get canned though.
AmericanDream
Thank you Elon!
Toews2Bickell
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Remember 2012 when the Hawks were on that 9 game losing streak and the rumor mill was that the Hawks were close to making a coaching change...Might be a replay of that situation if we see a long losing streak. Last year JC got the opportunity to dig out of the 3-17 hole, that won't happen again
deytookerjaabs
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There could be a plurality of issues behind the scenes that aren't even JC's fault. But, at the end of the day I'm of the mind that even teams with all sorts of BS behind the scenes have been in shape on the ice.
Some things mentioned, IMO, don't add up. The team has a pretty solid history of health/conditioning so even though there might be some low hangin' fruit I don't think too many of the guys are out of proper hockey shape.
There could be a trickle down effect where the talent is being prima donna's over off ice decisions/JC thus many players are tuning out while the grit and a kid or two still play well because they're used to playing under adversity and/or still have something to prove. In that case you certainly can blame the players but it's not like you could just trade all the guys away.
As for "systems' and "not having transition" etc NHL right now is as clutch/grab + work ethic than it has been since before the early 00's lockout. It's always a tough league but right now teams need to bust their ass hard no matter the talent level. Is JC the right guy to get that out of his players?
When JC was put in place I joked that "we still need a cardboard cut out of Q behind the bench" just thinking that there's a good chance he might not be able to command the situation with the same unspoken authority. Sure, it's a tired cliche but cliches exist for a reason.
Given the body of work over a year I'd say he probably isn't the right head coach for this team regardless of the good nuggets you could pull from his tenure.
Some things mentioned, IMO, don't add up. The team has a pretty solid history of health/conditioning so even though there might be some low hangin' fruit I don't think too many of the guys are out of proper hockey shape.
There could be a trickle down effect where the talent is being prima donna's over off ice decisions/JC thus many players are tuning out while the grit and a kid or two still play well because they're used to playing under adversity and/or still have something to prove. In that case you certainly can blame the players but it's not like you could just trade all the guys away.
As for "systems' and "not having transition" etc NHL right now is as clutch/grab + work ethic than it has been since before the early 00's lockout. It's always a tough league but right now teams need to bust their ass hard no matter the talent level. Is JC the right guy to get that out of his players?
When JC was put in place I joked that "we still need a cardboard cut out of Q behind the bench" just thinking that there's a good chance he might not be able to command the situation with the same unspoken authority. Sure, it's a tired cliche but cliches exist for a reason.
Given the body of work over a year I'd say he probably isn't the right head coach for this team regardless of the good nuggets you could pull from his tenure.
RememberTheRoar
“I’m not as worried about the 5-on-5 scoring.”
I am in the fire camp, but not because I necessarily think Colliton has done a horrible job. I just don't think this relationship is ever going to work as long as the veterans are here, so there's no reason to keep forcing it and watching this team suffer.
Unfortunately, firing the coach is much easier than moving out some of the pieces that may be the problems. Or who know, maybe Colliton actually is the problem.
Unfortunately, firing the coach is much easier than moving out some of the pieces that may be the problems. Or who know, maybe Colliton actually is the problem.
Fire him, see if this core has anything left in it when let off Colliton’s leash and be ready to blow it up if they continue to be terrible.
I wouldn't be opposed to this actually. We go only as far as the core can take us (until their contracts come off) so making the most of them is most important (obviously next to nurturing our kids).
b1e9a8r5s
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I'm holding out a sliver of hope still, but I think this is ultimately where I end up as well.
Kaners Bald Spot
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I'm actually in this camp. The kids are coming along very nicely(including Strome/Cat) and the vets are being weird and deciding to take games off from time to time.
Hopefully tonight was a step in the right direction.
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