Post-Game Talk: Here we are. WPG 3 - DAL too much

[truck]

Agreed. The Jets appear to be well set for a couple years down the road. That begs they question is it time to go all in on the next generation? The organization had to bide its team to develop a prospect pool, but now that the cupboard is full and we have a hand full of young players with promising futures do we continue to try and bridge the older core with the young guys or is it time to start pulling the trigger. We have a few vets that are producing very well on sweet heart contracts (Wheeler and Little) that can help lead the way. But IMO we need to start staking the deck a little to get young players that can grow into important organizational roles. It appears to me Chevy is keeping his feet in both camps, but IMO it is time to decide on a direction and go.

Bolded - Less so if Byfuglien, Ladd and Perreault walk.

Without a few key re-signings, there may be some depth issues down the road. The future at D makes me nervous.

 

[PhilJets]

Only elite team don't go into a dry spell like this, Jets is not an elite team (yet).
Jets have dry spells last year, but less than the previous years.

Are Jets suppose win 4 lose 1?
No
Is Scheifele suppose to score 30 goals? Last time I saw it he is on phase for about 20? Which is almost all of us predicted it for him.
Did we expect our 4th line to be one of the best? I didn't but I'd rather have the 2 rookies now instead of 1 year of Stempniak, tlusty, etc. optimistically we are a team that can make the playoff and maybe win 1 round this year.


Jets defense is built for offense, now we want Harrison and Pardy. After winning 2 games with them. We will say, they are crap.

Goalie is the problem here, Pavs and Hutch are not game changing goalies. Game with the game is very important for the momentum. Clutch save is important even if Pavs gave up 3 goals already he needed to shut the door down. In 5 years, I think less than 10 games pavs had really shown the capability to shut the door down.

Go Jets Go!
Time to win 10 straight and then trade Buff and Ladd

 

[garret9]

Elite teams go on dry spells.

No team doesn't go on dry spells.

I don't view Jets as elite though. I think they are at or near elite in particular areas but not as a whole.

 

[surixon]

Elite teams go on dry spells.

No team doesn't go on dry spells.

I don't view Jets as elite though. I think they are at or near elite in particular areas but not as a whole.

Yup they need to do something about there discipline and pk. The biggest issue I have with our vets is that they tend to be some of the most penalized players on the team. Our guys like Scheifele, Lowry and Ehlers are actually quite disciplined which is a good sign.

 

[winnipegger]

The Jets losing has correlated strongly with the PSE line not scoring. Right? This is a problem, that's their role.

 

[sipowicz]

The Jets losing has correlated strongly with the PSE line not scoring. Right? This is a problem, that's their role.

The makeup of that line is ridiculous and I thought that since game one of the season.
Schief with two undersized wingers!

 

[Jets 31]

The makeup of that line is ridiculous and I thought that since game one of the season.
Schief with two undersized wingers!

I agree , that's why i suggested moving Ehlers to the 1st line with Little and Wheeler and Ladd with Shef and Stafford on the 2nd . This way you try and get Ladd and Stafford some offensive production and frenchie can add speed to Lowrey's line .

 

[truck]

The makeup of that line is ridiculous and I thought that since game one of the season.
Schief with two undersized wingers!

They have been excellent as a group.

Sometimes pucks don't go in. That is all there is to it.

Fixing the bottom 6 makes sense, disrupting the top 6 due to a short slump is a horrible idea. They have been solid.

 

[Jets 31]

They have been excellent as a group.

Sometimes pucks don't go in. That is all there is to it.

Fixing the bottom 6 makes sense, disrupting the top 6 due to a short slump is a horrible idea. They have been solid.[/ 4 out of the top 6 are playing well , Ladd and frenchie are not , especially the captain . Don't know what is going on with Ladd but if he was playing like he has in the past that 1st line would be carrying us through a couple of these last few games . All i can say is it better not have to be due to his contract negotiations .

 

[garret9]

The makeup of that line is ridiculous and I thought that since game one of the season.
Schief with two undersized wingers!

45 lines have played at least 75 mins.

That line is:
10th in Corsi percentage
15th in Scoring Chances percentage
12th in Goal percentage


Sorry bro, but that line is doing pretty well.

 

[garret9]

Fun fact:
Burmi-Lowry-Stafford had a 49.1 Corsi but a 30.0 Goal percentage.
I think some of the bottom six issues was a bit PDO (93.7) driven.

 

[BigZ65]

I agree , that's why i suggested moving Ehlers to the 1st line with Little and Wheeler and Ladd with Shef and Stafford on the 2nd . This way you try and get Ladd and Stafford some offensive production and frenchie can add speed to Lowrey's line .

I could maybe see Wheeler and Perreault trading spots, but those other duos aren't getting split.

 

[truck]

I could maybe see Wheeler and Perreault trading spots, but those other duos aren't getting split.

Even then, why shuffle the two good, productive lines?

 

[sipowicz]

45 lines have played at least 75 mins.

That line is:
10th in Corsi percentage
15th in Scoring Chances percentage
12th in Goal percentage


Sorry bro, but that line is doing pretty well.

How has that line done in the past 5-6 games? Niko: 0 goals, 1 assist, Mark: 1 goal, 0 assists, Matty: 0 goals, 2 assists (Leafs game) those are the numbers that matter!

Or combined 18 games played, 1 goal, 3 assists.

 

[Hank Chinaski]

Fun fact:
Burmi-Lowry-Stafford had a 49.1 Corsi but a 30.0 Goal percentage.
I think some of the bottom six issues was a bit PDO (93.7) driven.

This doesn't sound right. Burmi, Lowry and Stafford have Corsi of 44.7%, 46.8% and 46.3%, respectively. At least according to stats.hockeyanalysis.com

 

[jetsforever]

This doesn't sound right. Burmi, Lowry and Stafford have Corsi of 44.7%, 46.8% and 46.3%, respectively. At least according to stats.hockeyanalysis.com

Maybe their individual numbers are brought down by playing with other linemates.

 

[Hank Chinaski]

Maybe their individual numbers are brought down by playing with other linemates.

That's what I was thinking, but they really haven't spent much time apart.

 

[Ducky10]

They have been excellent as a group.

Sometimes pucks don't go in. That is all there is to it.

Fixing the bottom 6 makes sense, disrupting the top 6 due to a short slump is a horrible idea. They have been solid.

Bless you and your sanity.

 

[YWGinYYZ]

Bless you and your sanity.

We'll have none of that here.

Onwards and upwards - GDT for the Preds has been posted: http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=1982701

 

[ps241]

Bolded - Less so if Byfuglien, Ladd and Perreault walk.

Without a few key re-signings, there may be some depth issues down the road. The future at D makes me nervous.

I agree with this. At the end of the day we are doing decent at drafting but if we are flipping the old core and Matt P we are filling the pipeline at below replacement level pace currently unless we get tangible assets back in return and I think that ship has kind of sailed or is dam close. Both Buff and Ladd are entering rental territory now which usually yields you picks and maybe prospects and are TNSE really ready to blow this core up for draft picks? Our 1st line is still our best line and Buff and Toby are still our top pair warts and all.

I think if you take Ladd, Buff and Matt P we can afford to turn one of those 3 but not 2 if we want to move forward.