Here comes expansion! Part III - Bids Only from Vegas, Quebec City
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Regardless, it seemed fairly backwards to word the release in the way that they did. They could've easily spun that into saying that they have two hard commits from markets willing to toss in a half billion each and a number of other markets that have expressed interested but don't have all their arena deals lined up yet. Rather than coming off as petty, they could've easily just said that they're happy to have to strong expansion candidate partners to work with (while not guaranteeing anything) while being hopeful about more longterm expansion prospects as well from a number of other markets that just need more time.
More or less poo-pooing Seattle or Portland or Houston or Kansas City or Milwaukee or the Hampton Roads or Hartford or the GTA or Hamilton or Saskatoon (obviously not saying that all are equal) or any other market you can imagine just because they're not ready now but might be willing to submit a more serious bid in five years or a decade doesn't seem to do the league much good.
More or less poo-pooing Seattle or Portland or Houston or Kansas City or Milwaukee or the Hampton Roads or Hartford or the GTA or Hamilton or Saskatoon (obviously not saying that all are equal) or any other market you can imagine just because they're not ready now but might be willing to submit a more serious bid in five years or a decade doesn't seem to do the league much good.
What are you talking about? That wasn't revenue sharing. Hansen , was going to put up some money and he wanted the city to be in for 200 or 250 million. The city agreed to this ONLY if the first Tennant was the nba ( which seattle supports). The city council agreed to this because it was clear that the demand for the return of the sonics was deep and would expose the city to little risk on their investment.
If, however it is NHL first the city though that DID expose their investment. If people were clamoring for the nhl like they were for the sonics, then th risk to the city is the same and they go forward. But the city was very leery of nhl first so not a shovel was sullied.
Go look at the top 10 teams I revenue and tell we which one gets bumped by seattle and when.
Top 10 is a freaking dream.
And although seattle didn't want to drop the 250 million ( or 2 hundred) the province of Quebec and quebec city had no problem dropping MORE for their arena based largely on the same considerations " How safe is this investment". In qc, it looks safe enough to proactively build an arena where seattle seems to want some sort of guarantee first before moving forward.
cutchemist42
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I mean, sure, say it about other markets but to have what they said apply to Seattle ? When you have been working with them for almost 2 years on this? You are the NHL, not the NFL. In the grand scheme of economic drivers, you are small potatoes. You just dont say things like that. Its classic Bettman though; didnt get what he wanted so out come these type of comments...
GuelphStormer
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yes, it does seem that bettman took it personally.
i wonder what was in the application package, and what was required of bidders. nothwithstanding the build-up to all of this, and various parties already having undertaken some of the heavy lifting, due diligence surely takes more than two weeks - strangely, bettman seems to have dismissed that. the entire process reeks of arrogance.
credit where credit is due: Glendale derailed the master plan. bettman is upset that he had to begin the expansion process early and he's taking it out on the 14 potential bidders who didn't jump as high as he ordered them to.
this does not look on the commissioner. he fumbled this very badly, and seems to be having a rather public temper tantrum.
cutchemist42
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If Phoenix doesnt blow up and look like a possibly cheaper relocated 12 months down the road, do we see more bidders?
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Do you guys think that Seattle might lost a chance at even getting a relocation team ?
NHL might favor Portland over Seattle in that file. Just my opinion but NHL doesn't look happy.
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Wasn't the application process somewhere till August 10th or so. Might be too late, but then again, it's NHL and anything can happen.
NHL might favor Portland over Seattle in that file. Just my opinion but NHL doesn't look happy.
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Wasn't the application process somewhere till August 10th or so. Might be too late, but then again, it's NHL and anything can happen.
LadyStanley
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I guess a lot of it may have had to do with the NHL's relatively short application window. It is a little suspicious why they would keep it to such a tight timeframe...
Two weeks is not enough lead time to put an application like this together. This process is rigged. Which is fine but I don't understand if the league wanted to just go to Quebec and Vegas why they didn't just announce that like they did with Anahiem and Miami back in the day.
cutchemist42
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Yep, why was the "show/theatrics" needed? To the average non-BOH hockey/sports follower, this story comes off as slightly embarrassing if you didnt follow the story closely and know Que/LV was that far ahead.
berklon
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this is a sad day in history of NHL expansion... no Hamilton bid for the NHL to reject.
Hopefully that'll be the end of the Toronto/Buffalo territory rights with a team in Hamilton conversation.
It seemed pointless to discuss it at the lengths it was being discussed when we haven't heard a peep from someone wanting to put a team in Hamilton. And now that we're 100% sure no one is working to put a team in Hamilton - it truly doesn't matter what the effects are. We may as well be talking about the effects of putting a team on the moon and how that will piss off MLSE.
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