Prospect Info: Henrik Borgström (2016, #23 overall), Univ. of Denver (NCAA), signed ELC on 3/26/2018

[BabyBennettov]

On which group, the group of Players on the Panthers or the group Center or group of Prospects. I hate statements who not really specific and let too much space to get it wrong.

Barnaby is replying to a tweet about Terry, Donato, Greenway and Borgstrom...

Common sense here. Also remember it is a tweet...

 

[PanthersHockey1]

I am curious what are people's expectations of Borgstrom both for this coming season and long-term?

Do you see him as a 3C? 20G an 30A guy? What's his ceiling if you had to guess?

 

[Jean Luc Discard]

Do you see him as a 3C? 20G an 30A guy? What's his ceiling if you had to guess?

An elite center in the making. On some other team which is only missing a 1C, 35+55 at his peak.

 

[42]

I am curious what are people's expectations of Borgstrom both for this coming season and long-term?

Do you see him as a 3C? 20G an 30A guy? What's his ceiling if you had to guess?

This season will be tough to get a lot of points. Top 6 seems all taken. If he plays 3C and 2nd PP then something like 45 points would be a very good season for him. Eventually, as he works his way up the lineup, I can see 70+ points.

 

[Deas]

Given "Top 6 F" by EA as potential ranking. Not very generous in my opinion.

 

[Little Bobby Boo]

Given "Top 6 F" by EA as potential ranking. Not very generous in my opinion.

Barkov is an 88, also not very generous.

 

[Clint]

An elite center in the making. On some other team which is only missing a 1C, 35+55 at his peak.

I will bet you $100 that Henrik Borgstrom will never score 90 points.

 

[Chino Oscar]

An elite center in the making. On some other team which is only missing a 1C, 35+55 at his peak.

This infatuation with Borgstrom is over the top.

 

[Jean Luc Discard]

I will bet you $100 that Henrik Borgstrom will never score 90 points.

I'll take that bet. Look 'ere-... the point totals in the league are going up by a mile compared to the past few years beyond the previous previous season and I think it's not only the fact that the speed 'n skill game is jacking up the numbers on scoresheets but the rule changes what we saw in the previous season play a big part in it e.g. even a light touch with a stick near the hands will cost 2min in box for slashing. That's why some of the skilled vets who are skilled were able to even post career highs in the past season e.g. Kopitar, Wheeler. And in the end its circumstantial: if Borgstrom would get a 1C opportunity at some other org that does have some decent players would likely be in the 90pts range since there will be more rule changes in the future that are advantageous for skilled players.

 

[Clint]

I'll take that bet. Look 'ere-... the point totals in the league are going up by a mile compared to the past few years beyond the previous previous season and I think it's not only the fact that the speed 'n skill game is jacking up the numbers on scoresheets but the rule changes what we saw in the previous season play a big part in it e.g. even a light touch with a stick near the hands will cost 2min in box for slashing. That's why some of the skilled vets who are skilled were able to even post career highs in the past season e.g. Kopitar, Wheeler. And in the end its circumstantial: if Borgstrom would get a 1C opportunity at some other org that does have some decent players would likely be in the 90pts range since there will be more rule changes in the future that are advantageous for skilled players.

Look 'ere - Over the past 10 seasons or so the 90 point mark has only been hit 46 times by my count. Yes, I counted. By and large the guys who hit that mark are mostly named Crosby, Ovechkin, Sedin, Datsyuk, Malkin, and a few others.

This isn't to say I'm not excited about Borgstrom. I think he's going to be a phenomenal talent and I'm really happy he's on our team. However, to put him in the conversation with guys who actually have proven to be 90 point talents is setting yourself up for disappointment.

 

[barkovcanfinnish]

If Borgstrom becomes a perrenial 60-65pt guy with a couple seasons at 70-75pts then I'd be very pleased.

I think he has what it takes to do it.

 

[LaMascarade]

Well the most unhyped top-end prospect on these boards has been recalled from AHL a couple days ago.
Filling 2C spot for now while Bjugstad/Trocheck are injured.

How did he look in his first game?

 

[Kaako Kappo]

Well the most unhyped top-end prospect on these boards has been recalled from AHL a couple days ago.
Filling 2C spot for now while Bjugstad/Trocheck are injured.

How did he look in his first game?

Good.

 

[Brokin]

I was shocked he did as well as he did in the FO circle. Interesting to see if he can keep it up. I thought he had a solid game albeit conservative in nature. At some point he will gain the confidence needed to open up his skill and shooting game. I hope he does well but I am still concerned how he will handle the physical intimidation that surely is inevitable down the road.

 

[KW]

I was shocked he did as well as he did in the FO circle.

Maybe he told the opponents to FO, and most of the time they did.

 

[Little Bobby Boo]

I was shocked he did as well as he did in the FO circle. Interesting to see if he can keep it up. I thought he had a solid game albeit conservative in nature. At some point he will gain the confidence needed to open up his skill and shooting game. I hope he does well but I am still concerned how he will handle the physical intimidation that surely is inevitable down the road.

I agree he looked conservative most of the game. Very much in "don't make mistakes" mode. Hoping to really see his creativity open up as the games go on.

 

[Brokin]

Maybe he told the opponents to FO, and most of the time they did.

He's such a polite and engaging conversationalist, he probably did and it threw the opponent totally off balance. You can tell he has a rye sense of humor which is true of all the Finn's I know.

 

[Brokin]

I agree he looked conservative most of the game. Very much in "don't make mistakes" mode. Hoping to really see his creativity open up as the games go on.

It shouldn't take too long as he and the linemate's just need to get some chemistry. Boo changes linemate's at the drop of a hat, so he may end up going thru 2 or 3 before that happens.

 

[GermanPanther]

I would say it different, Panthers can have over a long time of Periode 3 Finnish Center who can play a 2Way Game.
But not even Barkov is current, a scoring Center as Mackinnon or Eichel or Trocheck are being.

So when Barkov turn out in the best Way, ending up like Barkov get 60-70 Points play a great 2 Way Game and a positiv +/-, i would also happy. But for that i must the a better offensive Game from Borgstrom, his defensive Game already signs of he practice in the Offseason with Barkov.
If im the Panthers i would try to get the three together to speak and practice in their Offseason together, both Borgstrom and Lamminkko can learn from him. Borgstrom the skating, overall Game, transiation Game.

 

[ProjectPanthers]

Played another solid game tonight while pivoting the 2nd line.

Picked up an assist and created a few scoring chances. Had some nifty passes and is starting to look confident out there. He's got that innate ability to slow the play around him down when he has the puck.

It'll be interesting to see how he progresses from here.

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

Played another solid game tonight while pivoting the 2nd line.

Picked up an assist and created a few scoring chances. Had some nifty passes and is starting to look confident out there. He's got that innate ability to slow the play around him down when he has the puck.

It'll be interesting to see how he progresses from here.

He should train with Barkov during the year/this off-season and learn as much as he can, the offense will come especially on the PP. I like how he's not over-committing, we can call it "safe" but it's responsible and once he puts on some extra weight he will be able to take the punishment when battling for pucks in the corners or along the boards.

 

[Cats2TheCup]

Kids vision out there is elite. So glad he's here. Brings a much needed boost. And to think this is literally the worst he will ever look. Once his confidence picks up I can see him becoming as deadly as Barky and Huby w his playmaking and shot. Would be fun to see him play with them for a few games when Troch gets back so he could learn a few tricks along the boards. Then Flank Tro w Hoff and Dads and keep Bjugs on 3rd line and see how it works.

 

[Haj]

Having two centers that can control the pace of a game is something no other team has.

If he keeps it up, you can move Borgstrom to the 3rd line or move Trocheck to the 3rd line. Potentially create a matchup nightmare for other teams.

Huberdeau - Barkov - Hoffman
Dadonov - Borgstrom - Vatrano
McCann - Trocheck - Bjugstad/Malgin
Hawryluk - Lammiko - Sceviour/Brouwer

 

[IceManCat]

If Borgstrom is around a 70 point player I will consider it a major success. I don't see him having that 90 points potential but hey you never know.

 

[Ryuji Yamazaki]

Like I mentioned in the other thread, I only watched pieces of last nights game but you can see that Borgstrom has elite skill.

I watched him make a couple moves and passes on the power play where I said to myself "wow, this guy thinks the game extremely fast".

I'd like to see him get a few goals and build up his confidence and then just explode.