HC-IR Fantasy Keeper League - Discussion Thread [Part V]

[Dr Pepper]

Nich wasn't drafted in our entry/prospect draft so you have to use a keeper on him.

Duly noted.

Ok, we'll try this again.

keepers:

Lehtonen, Thornton, Chara, Smith, Eriksson, Richards, Nichushkin.

Subject to change, of course.

Rookies: Tinordi, Schroeder, Karlsson, McNeill, Nieves, Bystrom, Pickard.

 

[TLinden]

Can't do anything with the prospects until next year. Prospects were traded during this season thinking they'd be protected.

Is this really something people are going to object to though? The prospects involved in trades that occured this season were:

H. Lindholm
Dougie Hamilton
Emerson Etem
Rocco Grimaldi
Ryan Murray
Adam Larsson

None of these guys are really pushing a GP threshhold other than Larsson & Hamilton at 128 and 106 respectively. It makes for a painfully boring off-season when the Keepers is 7 and the prospects are unlimited and uncapped GP.

And I say this as someone with Galchenyuk, Murray, Bennett, B. Smith, Shore and Jensen all playing NHL roles.

I think we're due for implementing a prospect cap. What that cap is I don't particularly care, but 3 seasons of a pool is way too long to just keep rolling with this setup.

 

[LT]

The fact that guys like Nichushkin, Jones, and Strome aren't prospects whereas Landeskog, RNH, etc. are is something that's a problem IMO. I understand why it made sense at the time, but it's just strange now and has prevented me from making a few deals due to not being able to keep the players I'd be acquiring.

 

[IslesRock4]

What would be everyone's suggestions for a prospect GP cap? And if we implemented a cap, how many keepers should we have?

 

[flyguy]

Getting my keepers in now, as I'll be pretty busy over the next few weeks moving to Alaska.



Keepers:
Corey Perry
Patrick Marleau
Mikko Koivu
Blake Wheeler
Drew Doughty
Brent Seabrook
Jonathan Quick

Prospects:
Nail Yakupov
Kyle Palmieri
Scott Laughton
Joey Hishon
Stefan Noesen
Andreas Athanasiou
Ryan Murphy
Connor Murphy
Calle Andersson

 

[flyguy]

What would be everyone's suggestions for a prospect GP cap? And if we implemented a cap, how many keepers should we have?

I'm in full support of doing a prospect GP cap. There are a lot of "prospects" out there who aren't really prospects any more.

I think 200-250 games would be more than fair. That's about 2.5-3 full seasons in the NHL. Maybe do 8 keepers if implementing a GP cap then.

 

[TLinden]

I'm in full support of doing a prospect GP cap. There are a lot of "prospects" out there who aren't really prospects any more.

I think 200-250 games would be more than fair. That's about 2.5-3 full seasons in the NHL. Maybe do 8 keepers if implementing a GP cap then.

Even that seems like a lot to me personally. It wouldn't change a thing next season. I'd say 150, or we could put it at 164 GP (2 full seasons) with an increase to 8 keepers.

A vote is the best way to sort this out.

 

[SixthSens]

I like 164 GP & 8 keepers.

 

[TribalPhoenix]

Keepers:

Logan Couture
Anze Kopitar
Erik Karlsson
Jonathan Bernier
Erik Gudbranson
James Wisniewski
Martin Hanzal

Prospects:

Joel Armia
Sebastien Collberg
Mike Winther
Danilil Zharkov
Keaton Ellerby
Jon Merrill

Available:

David Clarkson
Nick Foligno
Nino Niedderreiter
Christian Ehrhoff

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Just checked and I'm still the Rathje Cup Champ.

 

[Nuckles]

Just checked and I'm still the Rathje Cup Champ.

Champ*.



*Was the commissioner and rigged the scoring and injured my best players in real life

 

[RR]

Keepers
Tyler Seguin
Phil Kessel
Jordan Eberle
Brad Marchand
Jeff Skinner
Henrik Sedin
Matt Niskanen
Ryan O'Reilly

Prospects
Pontus Aberg
Elias Lindholm
Brandon Gormley
Oscar Klefbom
Griffin Reinhart
Damon Severson

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

The Champ is here and he has announcements to make.

1. We are switching to Eight Keepers. This is one more than in the past.

2. I am adding a 212 game cap on the prospects. I know that people have suggested a 164 game cap but I think that this model allows us to go into the future years with a more solid footing as teams aren't going to be forced to lose their prospects right now but instead will have a year to figure it out. The number 212 comes from the potential amount of games an originally drafted prospect could have played during these years (82,48,82).

3. We are going to use the Entry Draft model that I posted earlier. This is the one that takes the results from the previous two years and based off of where you finished is where you'll pick. The Champion will have first choice about where they pick in the real draft,followed by second place (cough Nuckles cough)...etc.

Remember that Keepers are due by the end of the SCF.

 

[Nuckles]

The 2014 playoffs was an inside job. The Blues are the true champions. Nuckles 2015.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

With that said here is the 2014 Entry Draft Order:

Pick|Team
1st|Ottawa
2nd|Rangers
3rd|Pittsburgh
4th|Tampa Bay
5th|Los Angeles
6th|Anaheim
7th|Dallas
8th|Islanders
9th|Nashville
10th|Philadelphia
11th|Phoenix
12th|Colorado
13th|Washington
14th|Vancouver
15th|Montreal
16th|St. Louis

 

[Nuckles]

St. Louis Blues Keepers
Sidney Crosby
Evgeni Malkin
Max Pacioretty
Joe Pavelski
Scott Hartnell
Alexander Steen
Kris Letang
Radko Gudas

Prospects:
Jake Gardiner
Vladimir Tarasenko
Teuvo Teravainen
Jonas Brodin
Slater Koekkoek
Victor Rask
Tanner Pearson
Tomas Hyka (lol)

Available for trade:
Slava Voynov
Chris Stewart
Nick Leddy
Roberto Luongo
And everyone else who isn't a keeper/prospect

 

[TLinden]

Keepers
Tuukka Rask
James Neal
Jakub Voracek
Oliver Ekman-Larsson
Dustin Byfuglien
Jason Spezza
Ryan Kesler
Alex Killorn

Prospects
Alex Galchenyuk
Ryan Murray
Beau Bennett
Brett Connolly
Brendan Smith
Drew Shore
Nicklas Jensen
Rocco Grimaldi
Anton Slepyshev
Brady Skjei
Andrey Makarov

Available for Trade (Anyone else not being kept also can go)
Joffrey Lupul
Teddy Purcell

 

[IslesRock4]

Ben Bishop, Nick Bonino, Ryan Strome, Brandon Saad, Tyler Johnson are all available. Have not decided on my 8th keeper yet.

 

[SixthSens]

The Sens own Dallas' 1st (7th overall, via Chara trade).



Keepers:
Steven Stamkos
Jeff Carter
Kyle Turris
Tomas Tatar
Shane Doan
Dougie Hamilton
Andrej Sekera
Robin Lehner

Prospects:
Tomas Hertl
Tyler Toffoli
Mika Zibanejad
Matt Puempel
Cody Ceci
Mark Stone
Dmitri Jaskin
Phil Di Giuseppe


Didn't really want to keep Doan, but the rest of my roster is garbage

What about doing something like giving a compensatory pick to teams that don't really want an 8th keeper?

 

[Dr Pepper]

Joe Thornton
Mike Richards
Reilly Smith
Loui Eriksson
Valeri Nichushkin
Zdeno Chara
Alex Pietrangelo
Kari Lehtonen

Rookies:
Jarred Tinordi
Jordan Schroeder
Erik Karlsson
Mark McNeill
Cristobal Nieves
Ludvig Bystrom
Calvin Pickard

Pretty sure I did that right.

 

[Moses Doughty]

Keepers
Ryan Suter
Henrik Zetterberg
Daniel Sedin
Chris Kunitz
Jason Pominville
Marian Gaborik
Dustin Brown
Jake Muzzin

Prospects
Zemgus Girgensons
Matt Finn
Gemel Smith
Esa Lindell
Sean Couturier (7 games off limit, no one else close)
Taylor Beck
Nathan Beaulieu
Zack Phillips
Mark Visentin


Neither goalie really good enough to be up there based on last year. And wow my team is so good I get to use keepers on Muzzin and 27 point hopefully rebounding Brown

 

[LT]

Keepers
Jonathan Toews
Patrice Bergeron
Andrew Ladd
Eric Staal
Brent Burns
David Perron
Carl Soderberg
Sergei Bobrovsky

Prospects
Hampus Lindholm
Jack Campbell
Mikael Granlund
Morgan Rielly
Nick Bjugstad
Lukas Sutter
Austin Watson
Sami Vatanen
Martin Marincin

 

[YouGotAStuGoing]

Eight keepers sucks.



Keepers
David Backes
Curtis Glencross
Rick Nash
Duncan Keith
Alexander Barkov
Henrik Lundqvist
Patrick Hornqvist
Joel Ward

Prospects
Sven Baertschi (51 GP)
Jakob Silfverberg (100 GP)
David Rundblad (55 GP)
Maxim Kitsyn (0 GP)
Rocco Grimaldi (0 GP)
Radek Faksa (0 GP)
Stefan Matteau (17 GP)
Tim Bozon (0 GP)

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Trade To Announce:

To ANA/COL 3rd Round Pick (Earlier of the two) and ANA 6th Round Pick
To Jaromir Jagr and Mark Streit

 

[YouGotAStuGoing]

Trade To Announce:

To ANA/COL 3rd Round Pick (Earlier of the two) and ANA 6th Round Pick
To Jaromir Jagr and Mark Streit

Confirmed. Needed better keepers than the misshapen puzzle pieces I'd have been hanging on to. Looking at you, Joel Ward.

Eight keepers still sucks.



Keepers
David Backes
Curtis Glencross
Rick Nash
Duncan Keith
Mark Streit
Henrik Lundqvist
Patrick Hornqvist
Jaromir Jagr

Prospects
Sven Baertschi (51 GP)
Jakob Silfverberg (100 GP)
David Rundblad (55 GP)
Maxim Kitsyn (0 GP)
Rocco Grimaldi (0 GP)
Radek Faksa (0 GP)
Stefan Matteau (17 GP)
Tim Bozon (0 GP)