Speculation: Haydn Fleury might be available

[biturbo19]

Former high pick defenceman at a position of need...this has Benning written all over it, and i'd be all over it too as a Canucks fan. Think you're talking about a lot lower upside than you'd hope for with a play picked as high as Haydn Fleury...but he's exactly the sort of project i wouldn't mind Benning throwing out pieces for. Could use a good solid young potential Top-4D like that, even if he never shows the dynamic scoring upside you'd hope for.

 

[Baksfamous112]

11 is a good choice...not too much, not too less.

Well, I watched all 9 of Carolina playoff games as well as most of their last ~10 regular season games plus all their games against Montreal this season.

 

[FissionFire]

Detroit has a lot of scoring winger prospects and players. I could see Yzerman possibly looking into trading one for Fleury.

 

[Marc Bergevin]

To MTL : Fleury, 2019 3rd
To CAR : Lehkonen and Reilly

 

[HockeyDBspecialist]

Carolina should just keep Fleuru, he hasn’t accomplished anything to have any sort of value beside a swap of an other disappointing first round pick. He hasn’t done bad by any mean but nothing to show he can be a force!

well it depends, if you look at CALE fleury stats you see nothing really amazing, but when you talk to specialist or see him play you know the kid will be in our D squad in 1-2 years for sure and have a top 3 ceiling.

now, Hayden is way better than what people think and more talented than his brother, he needs a change of scenery on a team that trust him.
Fleury/Fleury in the AHL would be fun to watch for the time it would work.

 

[HockeyDBspecialist]

To MTL : Fleury, 2019 3rd
To CAR : Lehkonen and Reilly

something in this range would work, not sure they want Mike though.

Lehk + or only Lehk if they need a strong versatile young winger.

 

[Weltschmerz]

not sure they want Mike though.

Not sure why they would want Lehkonen too.

 

[HockeyDBspecialist]

Not sure why they would want Lehkonen too.

Well, tell me your offer then ?
you probably have none because you know nothing of our players.

 

[Mister Ed]

Detroit has a lot of scoring winger prospects and players. I could see Yzerman possibly looking into trading one for Fleury.

Is his value more of a E. Svechnikov or Rasmussen?

 

[StormCast]

Well, I watched all 9 of Carolina playoff games as well as most of their last ~10 regular season games plus all their games against Montreal this season.

Soooo....none of his 12 shifts v. Habs this season impressed you?

 

[vorbis]

Soooo....none of his 12 shifts v. Habs this season impressed you?

I think it was more of an "eye pop quiz" in the end

 

[GoldiFox]

Canes have a handful of forward prospects in the range that Fleury would return (Gauthier, Saarela, Kuokkanen, Geekie, Drury). I don't believe they would be looking to make that kind of swap. I'd guess Carolina is looking to deal positional upside (young LHD) plus additional assets for a player being moved for some reason like Cap clearing or a young team moving out an older player with limited term. Similar to moving out Victor Rask (Center) for a more expensive winger on the outs in Nino. Maybe Fleury+ for Zucker or Galchenyuk.

 

[HOPE]

Canes have a handful of forward prospects in the range that Fleury would return (Gauthier, Saarela, Kuokkanen, Geekie, Drury). I don't believe they would be looking to make that kind of swap. I'd guess Carolina is looking to deal positional upside (young LHD) plus additional assets for a player being moved for some reason like Cap clearing or a young team moving out an older player with limited term. Similar to moving out Victor Rask (Center) for a more expensive winger on the outs in Nino. Maybe Fleury+ for Zucker or Galchenyuk.

How about around Bean for Shaw? Gives you guys the grit you were lacking and a playoff performer with sacrificing any roster player!

 

[GoldiFox]

How about around Bean for Shaw? Gives you guys the grit you were lacking and a playoff performer with sacrificing any roster player!

Bean is not likely available and he'd cost a better asset than Shaw. Fleury is only potentially available because he is no longer waiver exempt. Whereas Bean is still waiver exempt for a couple more years and has looked great in his first Pro year.

Canes already have plenty of grit and Fleury is essentially not a roster player as Rod Brind'Amour does not trust him with minutes.

Bean+ would be closer to a Kadri deal.

 

[bleedgreen]

I could see Fleury for Poolparty. I’m not a big fan of the big guy, I think he’s a project I don’t want to bet on but I could see it being viewed as a potential solid deal for both teams. Young d with NHL experience that can step right in has to be something the Oilers would at least think about.

Otherwise he’s a throw in on a big trade or we should just keep him. I think he’s got some years as a TVR in him. That’s valuable.

 

[FissionFire]

Is his value more of a E. Svechnikov or Rasmussen?

Probably somewhere in between. I can’t see Detroit moving Rasmussen for him unless Yzerman really doesn’t believe in the kid. He just played an entire season in the NHL at 19. He’s clearly going to be a player just a question of it he sputters out and stays in the bottom 6 or continues to grow his game to become a top 6 center/winger. I can’t see many teams ready to quickly pull the plug on a 6’6” 220lb center with the skills and hands he has at 19.

Svechnikov I can see Detroit moving but I think Carolina would want someone else. Berggren might be the guy, or Kuffner/Hirose if you need a more NHL ready player instead of a prospect.

 

[Finlandia WOAT]

Decent 3rd pair Fleury making >2 mil aav has value to the Canes when they're currently using hamilton or pesce at 4 or 5 mil + aav for the same play slot. They have prospects of the calibre a Fleury swap will fetch out the wazoo, and theyre nowhere close to desperation for a roster/contract slot. A Fleury trade only makes sense as part of a larger deal.

Friedmans thought in the op is to 1) get teams to call asking about Faulk/hamilton without mentioning their names and 2) retcon the hurricanes dangling pesce for nylander last fall as one of necessity, not because they were 30th in the League in scoring, had nhl righties to spare, or Eric Tulsky has a hard on for clean zone entries.

 

[Cardiac Jerks]

How about around Bean for Shaw? Gives you guys the grit you were lacking and a playoff performer with sacrificing any roster player!

Way off in value. The organization is really high on Bean. He’s having one hell of a first season as a pro.

 

[Roboturner913]

Fleury is not a "stud in the making" by any means, but is a solid, competent NHL d-man who won't get you beat. He needs to be an every day player though. Getting in 1 game a week isn't doing him any favors at all.

Some team looking to shore up their depth on D would be smart to buy low on him. We've seen him play good positional defense but he needs to break out of his shell and he's only going to do that with consistent playing time. I would not be at all surprise to see him become a solid #3, there are at least a few NHL teams rolling with worse guys in their second pairings.

 

[ConnorMcNugesaitl]

Canes have a handful of forward prospects in the range that Fleury would return (Gauthier, Saarela, Kuokkanen, Geekie, Drury). I don't believe they would be looking to make that kind of swap. I'd guess Carolina is looking to deal positional upside (young LHD) plus additional assets for a player being moved for some reason like Cap clearing or a young team moving out an older player with limited term. Similar to moving out Victor Rask (Center) for a more expensive winger on the outs in Nino. Maybe Fleury+ for Zucker or Galchenyuk.

Seems like the plus would have to be more valuable than Fleury for Fleury plus to work in the scenarios you're proposing.

 

[ConnorMcNugesaitl]

I could see Fleury for Poolparty. I’m not a big fan of the big guy, I think he’s a project I don’t want to bet on but I could see it being viewed as a potential solid deal for both teams. Young d with NHL experience that can step right in has to be something the Oilers would at least think about.

Otherwise he’s a throw in on a big trade or we should just keep him. I think he’s got some years as a TVR in him. That’s valuable.

Fleury is an interesting target if he's super cheap and the Oilers move out a lot of bodies.

Puljujarvi for Fleury doesn't make any sense for Edmonton considering the lack of wingers and Klefbom, Sekera , Nurse, Russell already on the team with Jones knocking on the door and Laegesson and Samorukov not much further behind.

Edmonton doesn't have any real need for another lhd.

I don't think that's something the Oilers think about at least they shouldn't.

 

[biturbo19]

Fleury is not a "stud in the making" by any means, but is a solid, competent NHL d-man who won't get you beat. He needs to be an every day player though. Getting in 1 game a week isn't doing him any favors at all.

Some team looking to shore up their depth on D would be smart to buy low on him. We've seen him play good positional defense but he needs to break out of his shell and he's only going to do that with consistent playing time. I would not be at all surprise to see him become a solid #3, there are at least a few NHL teams rolling with worse guys in their second pairings.

Yeah. This is why i think the Canucks would make sense as players for Fleury, at the right price at least. He's not gonna be a stud, but he does still have a bit of upside as a steady Top-4D. He needs to actually play to find it though. The Canucks have plenty of opportunity for a guy like that to find regular shifts and see what he's got. Heck, they burnt over a thousand minutes on Derrick Pouliot last year. Fleury would be a much nicer project to audition every night, with a higher "floor".

Just really don't know what sort of price would work. The Canes probably aren't looking for a struggling prospect swap for him, and picks are too far off from contributing. Canucks can't afford to be bleeding picks anyway. Not sure if there's anything on the roster that makes sense, but that'd be the obvious direction.

 

[Scintillating10]

Canadiens will give their pick for Pesce?

 

[elitepete]

I’d rather trade for Fleury and go with Hutton-Hughes-Fleury down the left side than give Edler 3 years.

Sutter 50% retained for Fleury?

 

[Cardiac Jerks]

Canadiens will give their pick for Pesce?

I’m sure they would. Canes wouldn’t do it, though.