GDT: Hawks @ Philly 6pm Nbc sports Chicago 3/30/24 (month of torture over)

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

Disagree. Their talent level isn't far off from Islanders, Sabres, Caps. Maybe slightly over performed, doesn't necessarily mean that's because of the coach though.

Division is also weaker this year

The first three season predictions I looked up the hockey news and the sporting news had them finishing last in their division and ESPN had them finishing twenty ninth. They have definitely played above expectations.

 

[Giovi]

He's flailing.

Philadelphia Flyers' John Tortorella: 'My job is, I'm going to push athletes' | TSN

After a series of headline-grabbing remarks over the past month, Philadelphia Flyers head coach John Tortorella spoke for more than 15 minutes Wednesday on his coaching philosophy and attempt to push the team to a playoff spot.

www.tsn.ca

 

[Pez68]

The first three season predictions I looked up the hockey news and the sporting news had them finishing last in their division and ESPN had them finishing twenty ninth. They have definitely played above expectations.

You could apply this to a half dozen other teams, and it would have nothing to do with the coach. I don't think Philly's early success had anything to do with Torts. They were 19-12 with Carter Hart, with a 2.72 GAA, giving up 28.7 shots per game. Without Hart, they are 17-17, with a 3.45 GAA, giving up 26.2 shots per game. It's pretty clear what happened here, and it has nothing to do with the coach.

 

[Hawkaholic]

You could apply this to a half dozen other teams, and it would have nothing to do with the coach. I don't think Philly's early success had anything to do with Torts. They were 19-12 with Carter Hart, with a 2.72 GAA, giving up 28.7 shots per game. Without Hart, they are 17-17 with a 3.45 GAA, giving up 26.2 shots per game. It's pretty clear what happened here, and it has nothing to do with the coach.

Not to mention, no one predicted it would be one of the worst divisions in the league. A lot more wins available when your division isn't as dominant as it was the previous year.

 

[Pez68]

Not to mention, no one predicted it would be one of the worst divisions in the league. A lot more wins available when your division isn't as dominant as it was the previous year.

New Jersey's struggles changed the entire dynamic.

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

You could apply this to a half dozen other teams, and it would have nothing to do with the coach. I don't think Philly's early success had anything to do with Torts. They were 19-12 with Carter Hart, with a 2.72 GAA, giving up 28.7 shots per game. Without Hart, they are 17-17, with a 3.45 GAA, giving up 26.2 shots per game. It's pretty clear what happened here, and it has nothing to do with the coach.

They had like an .850 sv% from the middle of January through the middle of March. The goaltending shit the bed.

 

[Pez68]

They had like an .850 sv% from the middle of January through the middle of March. The goaltending shit the bed.

I think their goaltending was covering up for a lot of their deficiencies and carrying them early on. It's like that season Crawford was amazing, and the Hawks got stomped whenever he wasn't in net bailing out all the high danger chances they gave up. I haven't looked, but I'm guessing their fancy stats haven't been very good all season.

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

Not to mention, no one predicted it would be one of the worst divisions in the league. A lot more wins available when your division isn't as dominant as it was the previous year.

Which would be playing above expectations.

 

[Pez68]

Which would be playing above expectations.

Or, just other teams playing well below. Lol

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

I think their goaltending was covering up for a lot of their deficiencies and carrying them early on. It's like that season Crawford was amazing, and the Hawks got stomped whenever he wasn't in net bailing out all the high danger chances they gave up. I haven't looked, but I'm guessing their fancy stats haven't been very good all season.

I haven't seen enough Flyers games to comment, but this all started with me saying a team that was expected to be a bottom five team in the league that is currently in the thick of a playoff race is over performing.

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

Or, just other teams playing well below. Lol

It's not an either or. If a team is over performing by definition a team is underperforming.

 

[Pez68]

It's not an either or. If a team is over performing by definition a team is underperforming.

Only in a vacuum, where only two teams exist. If the entire division is playing below expectations, then your team is going to look better than they are...

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

Only in a vacuum, where only two teams exist. If the entire division is playing below expectations, then your team is going to look better than they are...

I don't care enough to argue about semantics in a GDT from five days ago anymore.

 

[Pez68]

I don't care enough to argue about semantics in a GDT from five days ago anymore.

I agree. Lol

 

[Hawkaholic]

Which would be playing above expectations.

Sure, just not because of the coach, but because other teams suck. Kind of the point.