Hawk All Time C?

[crazyhawk]

1971, game 7, home ice ... w/ a 2 goal lead ...
First time ever got my heart broke. And I ain't hardly kidding either. Walked around like a zombie for a week.
8th grader - life would scar up my ticker a couple more times but yeah ... that loss WAS brutal.

I could sign my name to this verbatim save for the 8th grader part ... I was in grade six.

 

[EddieTheEagle]

IMHO it's Mikita by a nautical mile.

Toews' tantrum in the 2013 Detroit series is working against him here.

I always see this 2013 "meltdown" brought up but clearly a lot of you don't remember that game. Toews is practically being mugged that entire game, and the second he used the exact same "hard" style of play, he was penalized. Zetterberg was getting away with murder on the ice and never assessed a penalty.

You're going to respond with "he's the Captain, he should never act like that, etc." but if you rewatch the game, just focus on Toews, and it is ridiculous.

Also, how do you know that the "meltdown" didn't actually help the Hawks? I've played sports at a semi-professional level, and I know that if a leader like Toews is losing his mind, for a guy who is typically quite composed, I'd be fired up without question.

Anyways, I always see this take on his "meltdown" but I think few understand it. It always feels like couch-coaches, that have never really experienced a high level of sport, that are critiquing him.

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

I always see this 2013 "meltdown" brought up buy clearly a lot of you don't remember that game. Toews is practically being mugged that entire game, and the second he used the exact same "hard" style of play, he was penalized. Zetterberg was getting away with murder on the ice and never assessed a penalty. You're going to respond with "he's the Captain, he should never act like that, etc." but if you rewatch the game, just focus on Toews, and it is ridiculous. Also, how do you know that the "meltdown" didn't actually help the Hawks? I've played sports at a semi-professional level, and I know that if a leader like Toews is losing his mind, for a guy who is typically quite composed, I'd be fired up without question.

Anyways, I always see this take on his "meltdown" but I think few understand it. It always feels like couch-coaches, that have never really experienced a high level of sport, that are critiquing him.

This is accurate.

 

[GaryU]

IMHO it's Mikita by a nautical mile.

Toews' tantrum in the 2013 Detroit series is working against him here.

And Seabs got Toews back in the moment, played fine after.

 

[sharkhawk]

Mikita was only captain in 1977. So this is Toews. All time center is Mikita

 

[LordKOTL]

I always see this 2013 "meltdown" brought up but clearly a lot of you don't remember that game. Toews is practically being mugged that entire game, and the second he used the exact same "hard" style of play, he was penalized. Zetterberg was getting away with murder on the ice and never assessed a penalty.

You're going to respond with "he's the Captain, he should never act like that, etc." but if you rewatch the game, just focus on Toews, and it is ridiculous.

Also, how do you know that the "meltdown" didn't actually help the Hawks? I've played sports at a semi-professional level, and I know that if a leader like Toews is losing his mind, for a guy who is typically quite composed, I'd be fired up without question.

Anyways, I always see this take on his "meltdown" but I think few understand it. It always feels like couch-coaches, that have never really experienced a high level of sport, that are critiquing him.

No, I'm going to respond with "Yelling at the refs all the time is never going to get you the benefit of the doubt in their eyes." From one armchair coach to another.

 

[jaysoneil]

IMHO it's Mikita by a nautical mile.

Toews' tantrum in the 2013 Detroit series is working against him here.

The tantrum that lasted a measly 5:34 of game time out of the 21,396 minutes he's played for the Hawks? In a series they won, followed up by a Cup?

Tough crowd.

 

[GaryU]

1971, game 7, home ice ... w/ a 2 goal lead ...
First time ever got my heart broke. And I ain't hardly kidding either. Walked around like a zombie for a week.
8th grader - life would scar up my ticker a couple more times but yeah ... that loss WAS brutal.

Beverly Theatre for Closed Circuit broadcast...1st Lemaire from Center Ice, then Henri took over..HUGE OUCH.

 

[GaryU]

Imagine. Getting over-emotional during a Hockey game.

 

[Hawkaholic]

Some of ya'll never watched Messier (arguably the best captain of all time) get pissed at refs, and it shows.

 

[Srsly]

No disrespect to Toews, but Mikita was the better player.

In terms of pure talent and ability, Chelios should be in the discussion as well. That being said Toews is probably the better captain than both players.