Have Oiler Players Tuned Out Their Coach Again?

[OilTastic]

my friends and i were discussing this after the last 2 inept games, and with the W/L record now at 21-33 (including OT and SO losses) as well as the goal differential at a pathetic -29, have the Oilers tuned out T-Mac and his staff like we have seen so many times in the past? what do you think?

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[OilerTyler]

I think our players just suck

 

[hawks889]

my friends and i were discussing this after the last 2 inept games, and with the W/L record now at 21-33 (including OT and SO losses) as well as the goal differential at a pathetic -29, have the Oilers tuned out T-Mac and his staff like we have seen so many times in the past? what do you think?

Well there has been like 5 different coaches here in the last 7 years, but i would hope thats not the case here. No way T-Mac has already been tuned out.

 

[McRobbiezyg]

if he has, send the players out that have tuned him out. its on the players now

 

[Fairy McGodfather]

You have to tune into the coach in order to tune out the coach.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Blowouts happen. Rough stretches happen.

The year that Hartley won the Jack Adams the Flames lost nine straight in regulation at one point.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

I think our players just suck

This. They were deaf from the get-go.

 

[molsonmuscle360]

I don't think it's tuning out the coach, as it is a privilege thing. Some guys on the team know, that no matter what, they probably aren't getting benched or traded, and it shows some nights. Best thing is to trade on of those guys to send a message.

 

[Beerfish]

Blowouts happen. Rough stretches happen.

The year that Hartley won the Jack Adams the Flames lost nine straight in regulation at one point.

Rough decades happen.

 

[oXo Cube]

Giving up on a couple of games in a row where bad things happened doesn't mean they tuned out the coach.

It does mean there are a bunch of crybaby losers on the team, though.

 

[CornKicker]

you guys are kinda negative if we are being honest

realistically we lost 16-15 in our last 4 games.........

players have no compete and the ones that do look out of place. the answer is simple. trade the heartless, then hard part is finding someone who wants them.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Rough decades happen.

McLellan hasn't had a decade. He's had 50 games.

The previous ineptitude of the Oilers is not on him, or Chiarelli.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

McLellan hasn't had a decade. He's had 50 games.

The previous ineptitude of the Oilers is not on him, or Chiarelli.

I think what BF is trying to say is that the players have run out of real estate. Time to turn the page on a few of them.

 

[rockinghockey]

There will be changes made that will make this team better Schultz not on the back end and a legit top 4 Dman will do wonders.

I see Reinhart being a bust as his skating is terrible and won't compete regularly

 

[Replacement*]

Again? It happens every 2-3 games with this goldfish bowl.

To wit they spend ample time working on an aspect of play, any aspect you care to mention, they appear to attempt performing the instruction, then 2 games later you wonder if anything about the lesson is retained.

This is remedial folks.

 

[joestevens29]

Maybe the team hasn't tuned him out, but there sure as hell isn't a lot of guys that he's going to standup for when being asked by the GM who he should keep and who he should deal.

The coach shouldn't have to call out the leadership this many times in one year.

Then again maybe we just don't have the players to be vocal leaders.

 

[Tarus]

There is no evidence that the team has tuned out the coach.

It's just a small, soft team that is easy to beat when they are on the road and don't have the advantage of home ice. They were losing games in embarrassing fashion back in Oct/Nov on the road as the usual suspects pulled their wimpy disappearing acts, it's no different now even if the score is a bit more lopsided.

 

[McTrashBoat]

short answer: no

 

[Wheathead]

Wouldn't surprise me if some of them have, honestly.

 

[Replacement*]

There is no evidence that the team has tuned out the coach.

It's just a small, soft team that is easy to beat when they are on the road and don't have the advantage of home ice. They were losing games in embarrassing fashion back in Oct/Nov on the road as the usual suspects pulled their wimpy disappearing acts, it's no different now even if the score is a bit more lopsided.

The evidence of tuning the coach out is players actually acknowledging in the post game quotes that the team did.

For instance Hendricks or Pouliot or McDavid stating, in actual words, that the team abandoned the gameplan in games. To me that's tuning out.

Also, the teams work on the PP is fairly continuous indication of the players not believing in the system they have been forwarded. Is that tuning out?

Have the players defiantly rejected the coach and anything he has to say? No, this isn't Eakins here, but they certainly tune out specific direction with regularity.

Guess it depends on defn of tuned out.

 

[OilTastic]

i agree with those who say that it's now on the players. no more GM changes, no more coaches and coaching staff replacements. it will be interesting to see how many, if any, of the so called "core" get shipped out this season, at the draft, or over the summer.

 

[OilTastic]

The evidence of tuning the coach out is players actually acknowledging in the post game quotes that the team did.

For instance Hendricks or Pouliot or McDavid stating, in actual words, that the team abandoned the gameplan in games. To me that's tuning out.

Also, the teams work on the PP is fairly continuous indication of the players not believing in the system they have been forwarded. Is that tuning out?

Have the players defiantly rejected the coach and anything he has to say? No, this isn't Eakins here, but they certainly tune out specific direction with regularity.

Guess it depends on defn of tuned out.

scary!

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

its the players and so-called "leaders" of this team

not the coaches

 

[Tarus]

The evidence of tuning the coach out is players actually acknowledging in the post game quotes that the team did.

For instance Hendricks or Pouliot or McDavid stating, in actual words, that the team abandoned the gameplan in games. To me that's tuning out.

Also, the teams work on the PP is fairly continuous indication of the players not believing in the system they have been forwarded. Is that tuning out?

Have the players defiantly rejected the coach and anything he has to say? No, this isn't Eakins here, but they certainly tune out specific direction with regularity.

Guess it depends on defn of tuned out.

Every team goes through games throughout the season where they get away from the gameplan, usually to disastrous results on the ice. In the Oilers case, they've been a mentally fragile team that wilts at the first sign of adversity for half a decade now(Kreuger ranted about it after pretty much every loss). So it should be no surprise that a team with that type of lack of belief in itself falls apart when the goaltending doesn't hold up in the first period of each game.

It's still not a sign that the players have tuned out the coach.

As for the Powerplay, I'm personally of the opinion that the poor results there are a result of poor coaching, not tuned out players who can't retain instruction. Weird personnel decisions, an obsession with a point shot based PP on a team with no point shot, seemingly no concerted effort to find someone who will stand in front of the net, and little to no adaptation to weak matchups or poor play from unit members have all done a lot to undermine the results this year.

 

[OilTastic]

Every team goes through games throughout the season where they get away from the gameplan, usually to disastrous results on the ice. In the Oilers case, they've been a mentally fragile team that wilts at the first sign of adversity for half a decade now(Kreuger ranted about it after pretty much every loss). So it should be no surprise that a team with that type of lack of belief in itself falls apart when the goaltending doesn't hold up in the first period of each game.

It's still not a sign that the players have tuned out the coach.

hmmm....never thought of it like that.