Hathaway spits on Gudbranson (suspended 3 games)

Spazkat

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A sucker punch is exactly what it was.

This is a ridiculous take tbh. Hathaway and Gubranson were already into it , hence the ref stepping in to try to separate them. Both were grabbing and jabbing at the other. A look at the full sequence shows Hathaway ripping loose the chinstrap on Gubranson's helmet moments prior to the jab. It's not like either player had ceased all aggression the moment the refs stepped in. And yet somehow your argument is that Hathaway was unsuspecting?

Had he never been in a fight before (or watched one) to know that those rabbit punches are a pretty regular occurrence when a player has hold of the front of your jersey like that?

Or are we pretending that the expectation was for both players to magically turn into docile little lambs at the first sign of referee interference? (and if that was the case, why was Hathaway still grabbing at Gudbransons helmet if he thought the fight was over?)
 
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Neil Racki

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This is a ridiculous take tbh.
to know that those rabbit punches are a pretty regular occurrence when a player has hold of the front of your jersey like that?

To think Gudbranson's punch is a "pretty regular occurrence" is also a ridiculous take imo. There seems to be 2 extreme polar opposite takes on this .... then there is the commonsense middle (what Gudbranson did wasnt cool but it doesnt justify spitting and 3 games is about right).
 

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You forgot to mention that there is some difference in walking down the street vs playing hockey on the hockeyplace.

Your comment proves my point. For some inexplicable reason, in normal life, punching someone would be considered much worse, but in Hockey, a bunch of people seem to feel like it's the other way around.

It seems pretty clear to me that this is a case of backwards hockey culture. It's akin to a situation where a guy is regularly accused of being a pig towards women, but will go to the grave claiming that it's everyone else, not him...
 
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Spazkat

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To think Gudbranson's punch is a "pretty regular occurrence" is also a ridiculous take imo. There seems to be 2 extreme polar opposite takes on this .... then there is the commonsense middle (what Gudbranson did wasnt cool but it doesnt justify spitting and 3 games is about right).

You clipped my statement so it is totally out of context. I was specifically referencing the choice of verbiage that called what happened a sucker punch.

How many NHL fights have you witnessed where one of the players has hold of a the other players jersey and keeps them at an arms length while throwing those little rabbit punches often called jersey jabs? It happens all the time and is a staple of NHL fighting. One of those coming at the tail end of a scuffle serious enough to require a ref's interference and shortly after you reach around the ref to yank a chin strap hard enough to pull it loose is in no way shape or form a "sucker punch"
 

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Does Hathaway have a concussion from the punch he took?
This is actually a pretty dangerous misconception about head trauma. The idea that you need to have a diagnosed head injury for it to be part of a larger problem is false. CTE is not literally the result of only concussions, rather the culmination of multiple blows to the head over a sustained period of time. So yes, even an errant punch that resulted in no immediate health concerns can actually play a significant part in a larger one down the line.
 
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Herregud

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You clipped my statement so it is totally out of context. I was specifically referencing the choice of verbiage that called what happened a sucker punch.

How many NHL fights have you witnessed where one of the players has hold of a the other players jersey and keeps them at an arms length while throwing those little rabbit punches often called jersey jabs? It happens all the time and is a staple of NHL fighting. One of those coming at the tail end of a scuffle serious enough to require a ref's interference and shortly after you reach around the ref to yank a chin strap hard enough to pull it loose is in no way shape or form a "sucker punch"
If someone's looking away from you and the active engagement does not involve punching (say... a conflict is dying down and the refs are in the process of separating the two of you) and you punch them, it's a sucker punch.

You can try to turn it into whatever else you want, but it is a sucker punch. Does it have to be hard? Does there have to be a KO? Obviously not, but it is absolutely a sucker punch. If Hathaway, the guy getting punched, says it is a sucker punch, then you, some person not involved in the conflict, can't just go "Uh... no it's not" and think that your word is the final word.
 

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Soon it'll be 15 officials holding back Hathaway in addition to Eakins from the bench in a show of Darth Vaderian powers. Hathaway with his final breath whispers "freedom" and a gentle mist of unintended aerosalized spit comes out of his mouth and lands near Gudbranson. Then 3 games later the martyred Hathaway emerges from a cave.
Sure thing boss, after approximately 15 more re-tellings by the words straight from the horse (ass)’s mouth (yours). So I guess you should hold your breath until then. Or maybe just wait until anyone says a higher number than two (the actual number) before inserting your foot in your own mouth, Again. Good luck to you sir. Perhaps sometime this season your team can aspire to improve its position as third worst in the division that allowed the Oilers to win an outright playoff spot. Let’s watch shall we?
 

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So now Caps fans don't have a problem with spitting? They were in a rage tried their best to say that Crosby spit on Kuznetsov when he clearly didn't a couple of years ago.

 
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Herregud

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So now Caps fans don't have a problem with spitting? They were in a rage tried their best to say that Crosby spit on Kuznetsov when he clearly didn't a couple of years ago.


Caps fans, or the majority of them, are calling it disgusting. Which it is/was. There's no consensus on whether or not it should have been a suspension, however. I didn't think it would be a suspension based on how the NHL has handled such things in the past. I was wrong and the NHL continues to make no sense.

There's certainly no significant number of Caps fans who "don't have a problem with spitting". Stop making things up.
 

Roshi

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So now Caps fans don't have a problem with spitting? They were in a rage tried their best to say that Crosby spit on Kuznetsov when he clearly didn't a couple of years ago.



Well done sir. You make Internet great again.
 

hb12xchamps

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This is a ridiculous take tbh. Hathaway and Gubranson were already into it , hence the ref stepping in to try to separate them. Both were grabbing and jabbing at the other. A look at the full sequence shows Hathaway ripping loose the chinstrap on Gubranson's helmet moments prior to the jab. It's not like either player had ceased all aggression the moment the refs stepped in. And yet somehow your argument is that Hathaway was unsuspecting?
What are you talking about? Hathaway already fought Grant, Nick Ritchie came in and tried to get involved with Hathaway so the refs intervened and tied both of them up. That's when Gudbranson decided to weasel his way over and start shit with a guy who's tied up by two refs and Ritchie. No shit Hathaway was jawing at him and pissed off. I don't think a player that's tied down by the refs and another Ducks player is suspecting of getting jabbed in the face
 

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