Speculation: Habs Interested in Vadim Shipachev II
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Sterling Archer
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If the buyout is $700,000 then what's the hold up? That's a drop in the bucket to get arguably one of the best players not in the NHL on a Habs team desperate for offense.
Ginu
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Habs can't pay it for him. And we can't give a signing bonus that includes that amount.
Can they? Team's expenses for player contracts are ruled by the CBA. Friedman said nobody would pay that, that's probably closer to reality than stating the opposite.
Maybe you aren't aware of this, but Habs can not pay any of
this buy-out price. That would be tampering.
LastWordArmy
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A look at
- Todays Developments
- How an NHL team could pay Shipachyov's buyout (and the precedent for doing so).
- What today's World Cup announcement means
and why we believe this is all a financial powerplay by SKA St. Petersburg to get more than the $700,000 buyout amount.
http://lastwordonsports.com/2016/05...yout-situation-analyzing-latest-developments/
- Todays Developments
- How an NHL team could pay Shipachyov's buyout (and the precedent for doing so).
- What today's World Cup announcement means
and why we believe this is all a financial powerplay by SKA St. Petersburg to get more than the $700,000 buyout amount.
http://lastwordonsports.com/2016/05...yout-situation-analyzing-latest-developments/
Perfect. Offer him a little bit more than what you offered him at first.
Habs offered 3,5M$ ? offer him 3,85M$ instead. That way youre paying half of the buy out ammount. Which is reasonable.
Or give him more money the first year so he can succesfully pay it if he doesnt have that ammount in his bank account, exemple : 3,5 x 3 years is a total of = 10,5. Give him 5M$ the first year, 3m$ the 2nd, and 2,5M$ the last one.
We should have had Gallagher talk to Putin when he had the chance.
Asking him to put some pressure on SKA St. Petersburg to release Ship to the Habs.
This way Therrien could make him into a better person all to the benefit of the Russian National Team.
Yes you can return this money in salary. That will have the usual
cap hit. And it's really not any different than offering more money
to out-bid other teams.
Thanks. So it looks like we could give a signing bonus on top of the salary if we wanted him bad enough to deal with the buyout without consequence. Seems risky of course given the unknown of Ship transitioning to the NHL, but if the scouts and MB feel this will help the team and work with other plans for the summer, just do it.
However, given how long this seems to be dragging, and "new" discoveries these past couple weeks, I get the feeling we (and other fan bases I assume) are being fished here.
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It's to bad the habs could have send down DD and save on the cap hit no?
The habs need a center, end of story.
Also, without saying Eller is a savior, he is better and more useful then DD, and I think he can produce 40pts and thats would be great on the 3rd line PK specialist. I would also note that Eller has been a better playoff performer and I think he will be better next year. Just don't expect 20plus goals from him.
The habs need a center, end of story.
Also, without saying Eller is a savior, he is better and more useful then DD, and I think he can produce 40pts and thats would be great on the 3rd line PK specialist. I would also note that Eller has been a better playoff performer and I think he will be better next year. Just don't expect 20plus goals from him.
I'd like to see Eller play with some wingers who can score some stinky goals...
Carr comes to mind and maybe even Ghetto depending on what we add up front if anything.
Perhaps even Lekh will be ready to step up.
Idk... if that's really the case you give him 700G more than the "real" contract if you want him that bad
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If indeed this becomes a big issue and he stay in Russia, its not a very good start to Bergys summer.
Funny how its all coming out now. No GM did their homework, Russian tactic?
Funny how its all coming out now. No GM did their homework, Russian tactic?
Sterling Archer
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You guys realize this is Russia we're taking about, right. Contracts aren't held in as high a regard as they are in NA and they certainly have no issues with playing around them.
I have zero doubt there are about 39 different ways the Habs or any other team could find a work around if they wanted to.
Shipachev pays the $700,000. Montreals official offer is $3,800,000 rather than the prenegociated $3,100,000 offer they made him.
I have zero doubt there are about 39 different ways the Habs or any other team could find a work around if they wanted to.
Shipachev pays the $700,000. Montreals official offer is $3,800,000 rather than the prenegociated $3,100,000 offer they made him.
If everyone in the NHL values him at a certain dollar amount, why should we be the one who overpays him? I understand that we need top six talent, but, Shipachev is an unknown in NA hockey. I agree with getting him at X dollars, however, I don't agree at X+ Russian extortion dollars.
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700k is nothing for rich NHL gms.. this could actually work in the Habs favor..
The 700k wouldn't count against the cap, so if Bergevin could get Ship to sign for cheaper than previously expected as long as we buy out his contract, it wouldn't be a problem.
C'mon Molson... it's not like Melnyk is our GM.
Sterling Archer
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Habs have been hot for him for awhile. If the extortion dollars are what it takes to get him, what's the problem. Think of it as a trade. Would you rather lose a 2nd rounder or $700k to get him?
Exactly! You want him, you're pro scouts have scouted and like what they see. Pull the trigger!
Maybe Geoff is getting penny shy after the extend-a-bum dollars are counted...
OldCraig71
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Wow, we are now in part 2 about a guy that was virtually signed to now we are just interested in him.
That would be cap circumvention to pay for the buy-out instead of Shipachev, since you are technically giving him 0.7M to sign with you. If we buy out his contract, it will probably be in a way that counts on the cap.
Yes, that's my point. We are probably overpaying in the first place to secure his services, so to overpay on top of that seems like extortion. Posters complain that players are overpaid all the time, imagine if this guy carries a 4.5m cap hit and doesn't adapt to the NHL, then will call GMMB even more of a buffoon for handing so much money to an unproven entity.
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