GDT: Habs at Leafs Pre-season game #6 Monday, October 2nd 7pm SN

[Jojalu]

When he flames out in game 20, when his hometown goodwill dies, think of this. He has flamed out quickly in his last few spots.

Domi had a pretty good playoffs last year, as did Bertuzzi.

They will be judged on their playoffs like any other Leaf.

Having fun in the preseason is not an issue.

Either he performs in the postseason and you consider re-signing, or he doesn't and you move on.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Lost FO’s definitely impacted possession but to say that is the only reason why they lost is overly simplistic.

You can't win, if you can't get possession, and faceoff win% has a direct impact on puck possession.

They didn't posses the puck enough because they didn't win enough faceoffs, therefore they lost.

 

[CDN24]

Hopefully last nights Matthews-Marner OT debacle reminds Keefe why he started starting Kampf in OT situations. Those two just cannot figure out OT.

My 5 cents from a Habs fan who watched last nights game. To be honest spent more time watching what the Habs were doing/failing to do than focusing on individual Leafs players.

That said you can't blame the OT on Matthews-Marner, they never had the puck. They lost the faceoff and Mtl controlled puck until Caulfield took the shot that hit iron. 3-3 OT is often 1st possession wins. You could argue that Leafs should have had the 75% FO guy Last night Tavares take that draw then switch with AM if they won it. Matthews was not good on FO last night. Thats on Keefe for putting him out for that draw

The one play I would criticize Matthews on was the Short handed goal against. He could have won the race to that puck behind the net but did not backcheck hard and let Dach by to get to puck 1st. Still could have hit Dach to separate him from puck but did not. Yeah he was out for most of PP but there was a stoppage in there, tired or not you still have to backcheck. His teammates played it worse probably. Other forwards changed on way back but did not engage defensively instead waiting for puck to exit zone while Mtl had control. Ends up with a 2-1 down low for Monahan and Dach with all day to put it in. Yeah its preseason and Veterans do not push it esp on backcheck but Matthews does that way to often.

 

[Racer88]

If the stars align correctly they won’t have to play Carolina or the Rangers.

Brodie is looking like he might become the new whipping boy that the Leafs always seem to have on D.

Isn’t the idea to be a good enough team that it doesn’t matter who you play, if not what’s the point of the core 5 and their crazy contracts

 

[Racer88]

My god your posts are clueless. Domi isn't going anywhere, and no, the Leafs are like every other team in the preseason by not going 100%

Thankfully I won't be seeing these brilliant takes anymore.

Except for the team that came back to score 3 unanswered goals to beat us. They gave 100%

It is irrelevant that it was a pre season game, that was mostly the team that will see opening night and we have seen this same crap, game after game and year after year with this core, coach and president.
They simply refuse to finish out games and putting Matthews and Marner out for OT is a train wreck

 

[supermann_98]

Matthews and Marner should play every preseason game from here on out. Can’t afford another slow start from either of them, especially Marner who’s history with slow starts goes back to his days in London.

Same with Nylander. He’s had a game to come back now from the flu now so he’s gotta get a few more in to regain his full strength and stamina, not to mention get his reps at C with Domi and whoever is gonna be playing the other wing.

 

[supermann_98]

If the stars align correctly they won’t have to play Carolina or the Rangers.

Brodie is looking like he might become the new whipping boy that the Leafs always seem to have on D.

It’ll more likely be Klingberg as his +/- is historically terrible even when playing on a good team. His defensive shortcomings will be magnified here as his defense makes Jake Gardiner look like Rod Langway.

Brodie is a defensive defenseman. His blunders will be limited as a low risk, dump-it-out, dump-it-in, pass it to his D partner type of player.

 

[Jimmy Firecracker]

My 5 cents from a Habs fan who watched last nights game. To be honest spent more time watching what the Habs were doing/failing to do than focusing on individual Leafs players.

That said you can't blame the OT on Matthews-Marner, they never had the puck. They lost the faceoff and Mtl controlled puck until Caulfield took the shot that hit iron. 3-3 OT is often 1st possession wins. You could argue that Leafs should have had the 75% FO guy Last night Tavares take that draw then switch with AM if they won it. Matthews was not good on FO last night. Thats on Keefe for putting him out for that draw

The situation that happened last night quite literally happened all the time last year with Matthews and Marner in OT. A bunch of OT games were lost because they lost the face-off, didn’t have possession, and 30 seconds later the game was over. That’s why halfway through last year Keefe started starting a combination of Kampf, Marner, and Liljegren to start OT and would switch Kampf for Matthews if they won the faceoff. Granted Kampf was awful in the dot last night but still.

 

[Jimmy Firecracker]

We didn’t get a replay of it but I did like this Domi hit.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

He is not allowed to be casual. He needs to earn a spot.

Baring injury Domi is a 100% LOCK for this team, what the f*** are you talking about "earn a spot?"

 

[notDatsyuk]

My 5 cents from a Habs fan who watched last nights game. To be honest spent more time watching what the Habs were doing/failing to do than focusing on individual Leafs players.

That said you can't blame the OT on Matthews-Marner, they never had the puck. They lost the faceoff and Mtl controlled puck until Caulfield took the shot that hit iron. 3-3 OT is often 1st possession wins. You could argue that Leafs should have had the 75% FO guy Last night Tavares take that draw then switch with AM if they won it. Matthews was not good on FO last night. Thats on Keefe for putting him out for that draw

The one play I would criticize Matthews on was the Short handed goal against. He could have won the race to that puck behind the net but did not backcheck hard and let Dach by to get to puck 1st. Still could have hit Dach to separate him from puck but did not. Yeah he was out for most of PP but there was a stoppage in there, tired or not you still have to backcheck. His teammates played it worse probably. Other forwards changed on way back but did not engage defensively instead waiting for puck to exit zone while Mtl had control. Ends up with a 2-1 down low for Monahan and Dach with all day to put it in. Yeah its preseason and Veterans do not push it esp on backcheck but Matthews does that way to often.

Tavares might win the faceoff, but the only person worse to have out there would be the other goalie.

Last year Kampf would take faceoffs and switch if he won.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Domi isn’t allowed to have fun? He can’t smile? Never knew there was a rule in place that says “no smirking or smiling as a leaf until you earn it” petty and dumb

NO fun and smiles are against the law because Bill says so, and we can't upset Bill.

Didn't you know this?

 

[francis246]

Tavares might win the faceoff, but the only person worse to have out there would be the other goalie.

Last year Kampf would take faceoffs and switch if he won.

Matthews looked god awful last night every time the puck was in our net we got a nice shot of him skating to the bench. I get the Tavares hate but right move would have been Tavares faceoff we likely win Tavares immediately off once we had controlled possession

 

[notDatsyuk]

Matthews looked god awful last night every time the puck was in our net we got a nice shot of him skating to the bench. I get the Tavares hate but right move would have been Tavares faceoff we likely win Tavares immediately off once we had controlled possession

True, but the problem comes when he doesn't win the faceoff, and can't get off.

 

[Nineteen67]

It’ll more likely be Klingberg as his +/- is historically terrible even when playing on a good team. His defensive shortcomings will be magnified here as his defense makes Jake Gardiner look like Rod Langway.

Brodie is a defensive defenseman. His blunders will be limited as a low risk, dump-it-out, dump-it-in, pass it to his D partner type of player.

If Brodie is in fact done, then he could get the Gardiner treatment.

 

[supermann_98]

If Brodie is in fact done, then he could get the Gardiner treatment.

No, he could never be as bad as Gardiner, he's 33 years old and he's not gonna be "done" for another few years. He's too smart a defender, even if he does lose a small step of foot speed

 

[Nineteen67]

No, he could never be as bad as Gardiner, he's 33 years old and he's not gonna be "done" for another few years. He's too smart a defender, even if he does lose a small step of foot speed

In the playoffs he looked like he might be getting close to the end.

 

[supermann_98]

In the playoffs he looked like he might be getting close to the end.

No doubt, but I don't know maybe he was hurt. I think he has another solid year in him, maybe not worth his salary anymore but still good enough on D to allow Reilly to jump into the play offensively where he's most effective

 

[Niagara Bill]

Baring injury Domi is a 100% LOCK for this team, what the f*** are you talking about "earn a spot?"

Because he is not good enough to be guaranteed to be a starter. He is not Marner.
Not challenging him to show his best is allowing him to be inferior, the social Leaf, not a desperate player. He has failed 6 teams.

Domi had a pretty good playoffs last year, as did Bertuzzi.

They will be judged on their playoffs like any other Leaf.

Having fun in the preseason is not an issue.

Either he performs in the postseason and you consider re-signing, or he doesn't and you move on.

Resigning? Make him earn a spot this year, not give him one.

 

[Duffman955]

Man people have lost their shit.

Preseason is to judge prospects and warm up our starters so they don't get injured.

Nobody who's already an NHL starter is out there trying above 50%

 

[Nineteen67]

No doubt, but I don't know maybe he was hurt. I think he has another solid year in him, maybe not worth his salary anymore but still good enough on D to allow Reilly to jump into the play offensively where he's most effective

I hope the explanation is that he was playing hurt.

 

[notDatsyuk]

Because he is not good enough to be guaranteed to be a starter. He is not Marner.
Not challenging him to show his best is allowing him to be inferior, the social Leaf, not a desperate player. He has failed 6 teams.


Resigning? Make him earn a spot this year, not give him one.

Ok. If Domi has to 'earn a spot', who is he competing with? Which left wingers have earned a spot and which are competing for one?

 

[myleafs]

When he flames out in game 20, when his hometown goodwill dies, think of this. He has flamed out quickly in his last few spots.

 

[Nineteen67]

Ok. If Domi has to 'earn a spot', who is he competing with? Which right wingers have earned a spot and which are competing for one?

Marner

Is it me, or is pre-season the longest season of the year?

 

[FerrisRox]

When he flames out in game 20, when his hometown goodwill dies, think of this. He has flamed out quickly in his last few spots.

What on earth are you talking about?

Max Domi led the Chicago Blackhawks in scoring last year despite the fact that he was traded to Dallas in early March.

With the Stars, he had 13 points in 19 playoff games.

You think he "flamed out quickly" with the team he led in scoring? He "flamed out quickly" by being one of the Stars top playoff performers?

Do you have the faintest idea what you're talking about?