Speculation: Guys you may have hoped were gone.

[Draiskull]

Aside from the obvious for some reason I want Gagner gone

 

[Skm]

Honestly not sure how MacT can publicly say that Horcoff needs a fresh start and then bring him back into the locker room at the start of next year. Especially as the captain.

Lets hope he will be able to facilitate a trade this summer, because is it too late to buy him out? Is the deadline to place players on compliance buyout waivers today?

 

[The Big Unit]

Honestly not sure how MacT can publicly say that Horcoff needs a fresh start and then bring him back into the locker room at the start of next year. Especially as the captain.

Lets hope he will be able to facilitate a trade this summer, because is it too late to buy him out? Is the deadline to place players on compliance buyout waivers today?

This is what I'm thinking too. Look how bad the Luongo situation is in Vancouver. Now that they traded Schneider after publicly stating Luongo was leaving they have to find a way to kiss and make up. I really don't want that with Horcoff, especially since a buyout isn't at all out of the question. They need to do something soon.

 

[McNutty780]

I would be ecstatic if all 4 of those plugs were off the team.

But I can't see Mac T finding a suitable replacement that make our team better, not worse.

 

[stratedge]

Honestly not sure how MacT can publicly say that Horcoff needs a fresh start and then bring him back into the locker room at the start of next year. Especially as the captain.

Lets hope he will be able to facilitate a trade this summer, because is it too late to buy him out? Is the deadline to place players on compliance buyout waivers today?

Well the one twist seems to be that Horcoff and his agent are out actively pursuing a destination for him. I imagine it's with the directive "if you can find someone to take you for free so we don't have to buy you out, we'll make it happen".

So when Horcoff comes back, it won't be MacT's fault, Horcoff can take responsibility for his situation.

 

[Beerfish]

Well the one twist seems to be that Horcoff and his agent are out actively pursuing a destination for him. I imagine it's with the directive "if you can find someone to take you for free so we don't have to buy you out, we'll make it happen".

So when Horcoff comes back, it won't be MacT's fault, Horcoff can take responsibility for his situation.

LOL yeah, not the gms fault for decisions made by the GM.

The convo should have been like this. 'Shawn, we re giving you a couple weeks to find a destination and situation for yourself that is acceptable to us, if you don't find one we are buying you out.

 

[taunting canadian]

Just to note, this was also part of the statement MacTavish made about Horcoff/Hemsky:

"Would we welcome those players back if the right circumstance presented itself? Absolutely," added MacTavish. "But I think in talking to both those players, I think the best situation would be to move on."

So as I've said elsewhere, the door is not completely closed on these guys. This isn't a Souray situation. Clearly the desire is to move them, but I don't think the organization is as categorical about that decision as a lot of fans seem to be or seem to think they are.

 

[Beerfish]

Just to note, this was also part of the statement MacTavish made about Horcoff/Hemsky:



So as I've said elsewhere, the door is not completely closed on these guys. This isn't a Souray situation. Clearly the desire is to move them, but I don't think the organization is as categorical about that decision as a lot of fans seem to be or seem to think they are.

It will be a 100% epic gm fail if both don't get moved after what he said.

 

[elpol]

Gentlemen, all this fussing over Eric Belanger simply must stop: what is the 2nd last name on the following list?

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/feature/?id=99026

 

[taunting canadian]

It will be a 100% epic gm fail if both don't get moved after what he said.

Yes, it may be, but:

a) people should not consider their return to be 100% impossible. It was never stated as such

b) people should definitely realize that a buyout of either guy was always unlikely on MacT's statements

c) people should realize that no timeline for when they would be moved during the offseason was promised. the "deadline", if there is one, based on MacT's statements is training camp. If you have a different deadline, that's one you've created, not one MacT ever "promised"

 

[Trafalgar Sadge Law]

Aside from the obvious for some reason I want Gagner gone

If RNH starts the season on IR, that would make Shawn Horcoff and Anton freaking Lander our top 2 centers. Nope, we need Sam.

You are the Fox News of Edmonton Oilers opinions. GTFO.

Find me one thing on there that's wrong.

 

[Ace35]

What if we traded Horcoff for Bertuzzi. Maybe tweak (keep some salary) if necessary.

Gets rid of Horcoff. Bertuzzi only has 1 year at $2mil. He can play 3rd line LW or bump up to 2nd line on occassion. He's a vetran big body who's always played on winning teams.

See ya
Ace

 

[sepHF]

Ales Hemsky: The laziest player I've ever seen and we need to get rid of him before his toxicity spreads to the kids. Last one on and first one off at every practice and decides to only show up for 10 games a year, floating about the red line doing nothing the rest.

 

[SeriousBusiness]

Can players be bought out at any time during the off season or is there a drop dead date?

 

[Skm]

Can players be bought out at any time during the off season or is there a drop dead date?

There is a window that expires I believe.

 

[hemskysuncle]

as you can imagine...it will be a sad day for me if hemmer leaves rexall place behind....

 

[Captain Catatomic]

move over hemsky, make way for liam reddox.

 

[AlowlyMcOilersfan]

move over hemsky, make way for liam reddox.

Are you for realz? I'd be so happy with that.

 

[Trafalgar Sadge Law]

move over hemsky, make way for liam reddox.

As bad as he was skill wise, the one thing you could never question about Reddox was his effort. If only guys like Hemsky/Belanger/Whitney/Horcoff/Smyth had that kind of work ethic.

 

[shoop]

Gentlemen, all this fussing over Eric Belanger simply must stop: what is the 2nd last name on the following list?

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/feature/?id=99026

I really hope tsn made a mistake and this Belanger was an ordinary-course buyout and not a compliance buyout.

It makes no sense to use a compliance buyout on him. Then again, maybe MacT had mentally committed to using a compliance buyout on Horcoff until Nill agreed to that deal.

 

[Trafalgar Sadge Law]

I really hope tsn made a mistake and this Belanger was an ordinary-course buyout and not a compliance buyout.

It makes no sense to use a compliance buyout on him. Then again, maybe MacT had mentally committed to using a compliance buyout on Horcoff until Nill agreed to that deal.

I think we'll need to save one next year for David Clarkson

 

[No Good Names Left]

You knew Horcoff and Hemsky weren't getting bought out when Mact said we aren't in a position to get rid of these guys for free.

You know Smytty not getting bought out, just based on principle.

Belanger was hit or miss...There was an inkling when Mact said we needed to get bottom 6 guys that are competitive at both ends of the rink. Makes me think we aren't signing Smithson