tmlfan98
No More Excuses #MarnerOut
Maybe Russell Martin would be a good fit as manager. Montoyo should be fired after this year assuming we don't make the playoffs.
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Martin doesn't have any experience as a bench coach in any capacity. Pass.
I agree there's probably a trend there but even then, most of those guys Epictetus listed had some form of experience;
Baldelli: 3 years as a bench coach for the Rays before Minnesota hired him (another Cash disciple)
Boone: was hired straight out of ESPN's booth
Kapler: Scattered experience as a bench coach for international play/A ball
Cora: Was a bench coach for Houston for like a year or two
Beltran: No managerial experience but lots of people seem to think he was essentially a second manager in the dugout.
Cash: 2 years as a bullpen coach for Cleveland.
Don't get me wrong, i'm not trying to champion a fossil like Showalter or Yost, but i'd rather have a guy that at least has a smidgen of experience before throwing them into the manager role. Especially a guy who is pretty well liked like Martin.
I agree there's probably a trend there but even then, most of those guys Epictetus listed had some form of experience;
Baldelli: 3 years as a bench coach for the Rays before Minnesota hired him (another Cash disciple)
Boone: was hired straight out of ESPN's booth
Kapler: Scattered experience as a bench coach for international play/A ball
Cora: Was a bench coach for Houston for like a year or two
Beltran: No managerial experience but lots of people seem to think he was essentially a second manager in the dugout.
Cash: 2 years as a bullpen coach for Cleveland.
Don't get me wrong, i'm not trying to champion a fossil like Showalter or Yost, but i'd rather have a guy that at least has a smidgen of experience before throwing them into the manager role. Especially a guy who is pretty well liked like Martin.
The Nemesis
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Bat Alcides Escobar and his sterling sub-.300 OBP leadoff because Gritangibles.
Vladdy does need to tighten up his game in several aspects but Montoyo singling him and Bichette out is so god damn stupid. Vlad is 21 and Bo is 22. I get their pedigree is stupidly high but it doesn't mean either is incapable of making the odd mistake.
I find it hilarious he's throwing his players under the bus when he makes multiple boneheaded decisions on a game to game basis.
I find it hilarious he's throwing his players under the bus when he makes multiple boneheaded decisions on a game to game basis.
Kurtz
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From Montoyo's perspective it's stupid because if you piss of Bo and Vlad the team isn't getting rid of those two.
The Nemesis
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I have a feeling it's less to do with Shaw (unless Montoyo is awestruck by his near HR from last game and is going to play it up as a splits-based decision as well) and more about a pointless and misguided belief that if he shuffles Vlad further down the lineup it'll "take the pressure off" him and inspire him to hit better (and maybe Gurriel is dragged along because Vlad has said he likes hitting behind Gurriel which has unfortunately tethered him to Guerrero no matter what happens)
As silly as it is, this lineup is at least marginally more defensible than Teoscar being 8th last night. Though I mean that as about as backhanded of a compliment as I can possibly make it.
The Nemesis
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old news, from like 6 years ago, but I just stumbled across it and couldn't help but laugh because it's just so perfect:
Greatest thing ever
Greatest thing ever
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The Blue Jays know what’s wrong with Vlad Guerrero. Fixing it is just a matter of time, and confidence | The Star
Guerrero’s biggest issue continues to be hitting too many balls on the ground. Like last year, he’s making hard contact but he’s not doing much with it. In 2019, Guerrero hit 50.4 per cent of balls put into play on the ground with an average launch angle of 6.7 degrees. He entered play on Saturday with a 60.6 per cent ground-ball rate and an even lower 6.5-degree launch angle. The line-drive rate dropped by four per cent while the fly-ball mark fell by almost eight year over year.
That’s not the trajectory Toronto had been hoping for after the coaching staff preached bat path and approach throughout the second half of last year. There have been glimpses, such as last August when Guerrero hit .314 with a .977 OPS in 25 games, but overall the young phenom has yet to put everything together for an extended stretch.
In layman’s terms, Guerrero is hitting the top of the baseball far too often. Guerrero has used the barrel of his bat 6.1 per cent of the time in 2020 vs. 7.7 per cent from a year ago. He’s frequently driving the ball into the ground by hitting the upper part of the baseball 48.5 per cent of the time, compared to 39.7 per cent in 2019.
The most troubling part, especially following an off-season when the club claimed Guerrero rededicated himself to a strict diet and fitness routine, is the numbers are trending in the wrong direction. It would be ill-advised to bet against a guy with as much natural talent as Guerrero, but last year’s advanced stats left a lot of room for improvement. Fundamental changes were needed not only to his workout schedule and diet, but his swing. So far, the adjustments have yet to take hold.
Opposing pitchers have used a pretty similar approach to Guerrero since his arrival in the big leagues. Last year, Guerrero saw 55.7 per cent fastballs, 33.7 per cent breaking balls (curveball, slider, etc.) and 10.6 per cent off-speed pitches (changeup, splitter, etc.). This year there has been 64.5 per cent fastballs, 23.7 per cent breaking balls and 11.8 per cent off-speed.
There are differences between the two years, but not big ones. Instead, it’s what Guerrero is doing with those pitches that stands out. Through 11 games this season, Guerrero was batting just .208 with a .292 slugging percentage, no home runs and two doubles on fastballs. Compare that to last year when he was batting .306 with a .476 slugging percentage and 21 extra-base hits on the same pitch.
Guerrero’s performance over the last year is even more disappointing when his numbers are put alongside those of his star peers. Atlanta Braves outfielder Ronald Acuna Jr. broke into the league at 20 years old and posted 4.2 wins above replacement value in his first year. By year two, his WAR soared to 5.7 after 41 homers, 101 RBIs with 37 stolen bases.
Guerrero’s biggest issue continues to be hitting too many balls on the ground. Like last year, he’s making hard contact but he’s not doing much with it. In 2019, Guerrero hit 50.4 per cent of balls put into play on the ground with an average launch angle of 6.7 degrees. He entered play on Saturday with a 60.6 per cent ground-ball rate and an even lower 6.5-degree launch angle. The line-drive rate dropped by four per cent while the fly-ball mark fell by almost eight year over year.
That’s not the trajectory Toronto had been hoping for after the coaching staff preached bat path and approach throughout the second half of last year. There have been glimpses, such as last August when Guerrero hit .314 with a .977 OPS in 25 games, but overall the young phenom has yet to put everything together for an extended stretch.
In layman’s terms, Guerrero is hitting the top of the baseball far too often. Guerrero has used the barrel of his bat 6.1 per cent of the time in 2020 vs. 7.7 per cent from a year ago. He’s frequently driving the ball into the ground by hitting the upper part of the baseball 48.5 per cent of the time, compared to 39.7 per cent in 2019.
The most troubling part, especially following an off-season when the club claimed Guerrero rededicated himself to a strict diet and fitness routine, is the numbers are trending in the wrong direction. It would be ill-advised to bet against a guy with as much natural talent as Guerrero, but last year’s advanced stats left a lot of room for improvement. Fundamental changes were needed not only to his workout schedule and diet, but his swing. So far, the adjustments have yet to take hold.
Opposing pitchers have used a pretty similar approach to Guerrero since his arrival in the big leagues. Last year, Guerrero saw 55.7 per cent fastballs, 33.7 per cent breaking balls (curveball, slider, etc.) and 10.6 per cent off-speed pitches (changeup, splitter, etc.). This year there has been 64.5 per cent fastballs, 23.7 per cent breaking balls and 11.8 per cent off-speed.
There are differences between the two years, but not big ones. Instead, it’s what Guerrero is doing with those pitches that stands out. Through 11 games this season, Guerrero was batting just .208 with a .292 slugging percentage, no home runs and two doubles on fastballs. Compare that to last year when he was batting .306 with a .476 slugging percentage and 21 extra-base hits on the same pitch.
Guerrero’s performance over the last year is even more disappointing when his numbers are put alongside those of his star peers. Atlanta Braves outfielder Ronald Acuna Jr. broke into the league at 20 years old and posted 4.2 wins above replacement value in his first year. By year two, his WAR soared to 5.7 after 41 homers, 101 RBIs with 37 stolen bases.
I don't think Martin is officially retired yet. I remember hearing he received some offers from teams to play but decided to sit out for family reasons. So maybe he tries to play next year and if no to playing, he may choose to step away from the game for a bit and spend with time with family before returning in any coaching capacity. I think he's got two young kids. But if he does jump straight into coaching, it becomes a question of is he better served in some kind of baseball related role first, whether it'd be broadcasting or part of a coaching staff.
In my view, he just doesn't line up with the Jays timeline.
I don't know... putting Teoscar down to the 8 spot was unbelievably stupid and the justification for it was even worse, but complaining about yesterday's lineup seems like nitpicking. If you move Shaw down two spots (behind Teoscar and Gurriel) then it's perfectly fine.
As for moving Vlad down a bit to "get him going" or "take the pressure off" or whatever, every manager does that kind of stuff. Gibby did it all the time, and I loved his in-game management.
The only Montoyo-related issue I had with yesterday's game was going to Font instead of straight to Kay. Other than that there shouldn't be much to complain about, and I think most of the complaints are based on the built up frustration of all the dumb things Montoyo has done so far this year.
As for moving Vlad down a bit to "get him going" or "take the pressure off" or whatever, every manager does that kind of stuff. Gibby did it all the time, and I loved his in-game management.
The only Montoyo-related issue I had with yesterday's game was going to Font instead of straight to Kay. Other than that there shouldn't be much to complain about, and I think most of the complaints are based on the built up frustration of all the dumb things Montoyo has done so far this year.
BertCorbeau
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I like to keep in ind it's 12 games into a delayed season with a much shortened training camp, only a couple of exhibition games, and all games have been on the road .. Not to mention a 4-day break because one series was postponed
Criticism on the young guys like Vlad is a bit harsh IMO
Criticism on the young guys like Vlad is a bit harsh IMO
The one thing I thought would be a joke is out strong point.. the bullpen. Minus Font it’s been incredible
The offense on the other hand.. utter junk.
The offense on the other hand.. utter junk.
A Swing and a Belt with Dan Shulman | Buffalo Bound
August 7, 2020
So you’re trying to put together a baseball team for a season in which you think your team has a chance to compete; really make some noise. Just one problem… you don’t have a place to play.
COVID-19 border restrictions have forced the Blue Jays out of Canada, so their temporary home will be their AAA affiliate’s field in Buffalo. How well can it work out? And can you turn it into a competitive advantage? Jays GM Ross Atkins joins the show to discuss.
August 7, 2020
So you’re trying to put together a baseball team for a season in which you think your team has a chance to compete; really make some noise. Just one problem… you don’t have a place to play.
COVID-19 border restrictions have forced the Blue Jays out of Canada, so their temporary home will be their AAA affiliate’s field in Buffalo. How well can it work out? And can you turn it into a competitive advantage? Jays GM Ross Atkins joins the show to discuss.
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