LeBrun: Guentzel: Pens want prospects over picks - Carolina favorite
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I think we can make a deal here Pens. We have a lot of prospects you could use.
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Surely there's a big market for Karlsson as well. Amirite?
Empoleon8771
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I think we know of 5 teams in on Guentzel between Vegas, Vancouver, Carolina, Florida and Edmonton, but I wonder what team makes it 6 and what teams may be interested beyond that.
Vegas makes a ton of sense to me as well. I think they have the money to re-sign him as well if they let Marchessault walk and have Hague replace Martinez.
Something like Brisson, Korczak and a 2024 2nd seems really reasonable to me.
Edmonton is rumored to be heavily interested as well.
Vegas makes a ton of sense to me as well. I think they have the money to re-sign him as well if they let Marchessault walk and have Hague replace Martinez.
Something like Brisson, Korczak and a 2024 2nd seems really reasonable to me.
Edmonton is rumored to be heavily interested as well.
I thought I remember somebody claiming that Pittsburgh's intent was to get NHL ready players.
Maybe it was Prospects but no picks?
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Should have never been in on Karlsson. There should be a pretty decent haul for guentzel. Probably best for them to get some good prospects for him.
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Empoleon8771
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The report was that they wanted 2 prospects over 2 picks, but I think picks would also be included.
Bringing my post from the other Guentzel thread, these are my expectations for a rental Guentzel trade with some of the rumored teams:
-Vegas: Brisson, Korczak and a 2024 2nd
-Carolina: Nadeau, Koivunen and a 2024 2nd
-Vancouver: Hoglander, Raty and a 2025 2nd
-Florida: Samoskevich, Sawchyn and a 2025 2nd
Edit: changing the Canucks 2025 1st to a 2nd so I can stop hearing about it
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Love
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I’m kind of surprised we (Canucks) are in on him. I understand the Pittsburgh connection but we already got Lindholm. Are we really going to get the two top rental forwards? At what cost? What about helping the defence instead?
I’m guessing if we got Guentzel they’d re-sign him by giving him a blank cheque for 8 years which is annoying. We don’t need more 30 year olds on long term deals.
I’m guessing if we got Guentzel they’d re-sign him by giving him a blank cheque for 8 years which is annoying. We don’t need more 30 year olds on long term deals.
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Empoleon8771
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Yeah that's the cost for Vancouver to get Guentzel. That deal is right in line with the other 3 offers.
I don't want to rehash all of the Vancouver talk after the other Guentzel trade, but Canucks fans are going to be upset at the price they pay for Guentzel if they end up trading for Guentzel. They won't be able to beat other offers without including Hoglander.
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Vancouver won't be getting Guentzel without including Hoglander because they don't have the ammo to outbid other teams for Guentzel without including Hoglander.
I know Vancouver fans feel they should get Guentzel for scraps because "he's friends with JR", but that's not going to happen.
Carolina has the better assets than any of those teams and if their management had an ounce of balls he would’ve been a Hurricane by now.
Canucks likely are being used to drive up the price on Vegas and Edmonton.
I dont see them using their big Assets for a rental like Geuntzel when they already spent on Lindholm.
They would likely have to include Hoglander in the deal which would be incredibly hard to part with.
Hoggy is 9th right now in the entire NHL in terms of 5 on 5 scoring. Scoring above guys like Crosby, Tkachuk, Nylander etc. His cost controlled 1.1 mil is very valuable as well.
Otherwise it would probably cost Lekky or Willander.
I think id pass if thats the price for Geuntzel for the Canucks. Just for after him in the off-season as a free agent.
I dont see them using their big Assets for a rental like Geuntzel when they already spent on Lindholm.
They would likely have to include Hoglander in the deal which would be incredibly hard to part with.
Hoggy is 9th right now in the entire NHL in terms of 5 on 5 scoring. Scoring above guys like Crosby, Tkachuk, Nylander etc. His cost controlled 1.1 mil is very valuable as well.
Otherwise it would probably cost Lekky or Willander.
I think id pass if thats the price for Geuntzel for the Canucks. Just for after him in the off-season as a free agent.
What great reporting. Let me try my hand at this.
"With 16 teams eligible for the NHL playoffs it would appear that at least 6 teams are looking to make a major move prior to the deadline."
Did I do that right Pierre?
"With 16 teams eligible for the NHL playoffs it would appear that at least 6 teams are looking to make a major move prior to the deadline."
Did I do that right Pierre?
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My issue would be with the addition of the 1st. A 2nd, or even conditional 1st, sure. But what makes the Vegas deal more appealing? Curious.
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Any one of those teams would be a good fit for Smith if they miss out on Jake.
Love
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The Vancouver offer seems to be more valuable than the other offers you wrote
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