Euro: Group C: Netherlands vs. Austria, 6/17/2021

[Bondurant]

Too much embellishment for my liking. Stop hustling for yellow cards.

 

[Live in the Now]

Man, those Dutch strikers are utterly incompetent. It's frustrating to watch. How about shooting when in the box before the defender gets into place?

They should just play Wijnaldum as a striker. He can play CB, DM, #8, #10, I bet he can play striker too. This guy Weghorst sucks ass and they have no other decent strikers.

 

[cgf]

They should just play Wijnaldum as a striker. He can play CB, DM, #8, #10, I bet he can play striker too. This guy Weghorst sucks ass and they have no other decent strikers.

I, for one, have enjoyed this obsession that the dutch have had with big strikers that aren't any good with the ball at their feet since...van Persie?

 

[Eisen]

They should just play Wijnaldum as a striker. He can play CB, DM, #8, #10, I bet he can play striker too. This guy Weghorst sucks ass and they have no other decent strikers.

He already plays at the 10 position and he interprets it very offensively, that's not much of a difference.

 

[gary69]

They should just play Wijnaldum as a striker. He can play CB, DM, #8, #10, I bet he can play striker too. This guy Weghorst sucks ass and they have no other decent strikers.

From the matches I saw in Bundesliga, he did look much better, though. The Dutch national team obviously hasn't had as much time to adjust playing with a player like him and are not getting the best of him.

 

[cgf]

From the matches I saw in Bundesliga, he did look much better, though. The Dutch national team obviously hasn't had as much time to adjust playing with a player like him and are not getting the best of him.

You would think that they'd be used to playing with an unskilled targetman; they've been doing so for years.

 

[gary69]

You would think that they'd be used to playing with an unskilled targetman; they've been doing so for years.

Yeah, I remember well the days since Wim Kieft, but Weghorst in particular has only played few games. The movement on the pitch from everybody requires more games, imo.

 

[cgf]

Yeah, I remember well the days since Wim Kieft, but Weghorst in particular has only played few games. The movement on the pitch from everybody requires more games, imo.

Oh it can get better, but playing a Weghorst or Luuk de Jong puts a ceiling/limtation on your offense unless you have just world-class talent everywhere else.

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

Dutch playing with their food. Might cost them

 

[TheMoreYouKnow]

One man's ceiling is another man's solid structure. I don't think it's a bad thing to have a guy like him in the middle when you have speed and skill on the outside.

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

Frenkie is a one man outlet

 

[Live in the Now]

Great save and great block.

 

[cgf]

Dutch playing with their food. Might cost them

After that, they have to piss it away, right?

 

[gary69]

That first Dutch corner was exactly Weghorst at his best, can't fault him for others not scoring from prime positions.

 

[Pasha71]

Does playing Italy instead of another group winner help them in some meaningful way?

Not really, but the third place is risky.

 

[Halladay]

Great atmosphere.

 

[KrejciMVP]

nice play

 

[SeawaterOnIce]

Nice goal, was expecting that break through.

All these lower teams suck.

 

[cgf]

Weghorst off & there's the 2-0...

 

[gary69]

Oh it can get better, but playing a Weghorst or Luuk de Jong puts a ceiling/limtation on your offense unless you have just world-class talent everywhere else.

A team can afford a (one) player like him, a sort of passenger, against lesser team. More so if that passenger is a good header and can be useful in dead ball situations. Of course, more versatile players are individually better and let's say a speedy smaller player can do better, but require a different playing style. There are several ways for team to win, and I think versatility is a plus, so the opponents are never quite sure what to expect.

Like now, when Austria faces a different challenge with Malen replacing Weghorst. I think it's very smart from a team to be able to change their look during the 90 minutes.

 

[cgf]

One man's ceiling is another man's solid structure. I don't think it's a bad thing to have a guy like him in the middle when you have speed and skill on the outside.

It's the Gomez dilemma. Not a bad player, but one who limits you & what you can do. Things would be different if he was Lukaku or Haaland, but he's just big & hard-working.

 

[Live in the Now]

Nice goal, was expecting that break through.

All these lower teams suck.

Austria doesn't suck, but the conditions of the game aren't favorable. First they had one guy get suspended and then they're the only team in this match that has to travel to play the other team at their home ground. The latter also applies to Switzerland yesterday. Fortunately it seems everyone has considered this a bad experiment and it will never happen again.

 

[cgf]

Austria doesn't suck, but the conditions of the game aren't favorable. First they had one guy get suspended and then they're the only team in this match that has to travel to play the other team at their home ground. Fortunately it seems everyone has considered this a bad experiment and it will never happen again.

They also didn't help themselves out with the team selection. So many movements have died on the foot of Schlager or Ulmer, and notKoller should've been starting.

 

[Live in the Now]

They also didn't help themselves out with the team selection. So many movements have died on the foot of Schlager or Ulmer, and notKoller should've been starting.

Yeah, those guys offered literally nothing.

 

[Ajacied]

Gravenberch! Increase your transfer fee, young blood.
Also, Weghorst sucks. De Roon is a black hole in ball possession. Dumfries is a headless chicken but so passionate. Malen is quality and there’s not a midfielder I’d take over de Jong. Carry on.