OT: Gooooooal!! The Association Football Thread #124 - USMNT, PL, MLS, etc.

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  1. New Jersey

    New Jersey BAD MAN

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    I really don't like clubs from Mexico. At all.

    And yes I know I probably had to word this carefully, but I really just don't.
     
  2. VaxjoDevil

    VaxjoDevil No kids - Still a person

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    Agreed, but this doesn't happen if you have a Messi, Ronaldo or Zlatan on that team with 20 shots. The team creates the dominance, the top player creates the finishing touch.

    I guess it's a catch-22 kind of thing. The best players won't play in the U.S. (until their quasi retirement age) because soccer is not big enough in the U.S., and the lack of the best players in the world keeps the U.S. from being more interested in it.
     
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    Nailed it. The United States is not where you go if you're a top player in your prime.

    You go full Giovinco and go to Canada. :sarcasm:
     
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    It's going to have to be a slow build to eventually attract top talent in their prime.

    Their current plan (or it so it seems) to start with U24 South American players is smart. Then you hope they can continue to develop their own academies and these young players benefit from playing with and against more skilled players.
     
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    I'm very happy with where MLS is right now - would I love it if the league were among the powerhouse leagues? Of course. Would I love it were producing more Pulisic-level (hell even prime Jermaine Jones-level) talent for the USMNT? Of course.

    But at the end of the day, as fans we can only control as much as we can control. It still is just entertainment for me. I am happy that I get to watch the Almiron's, Valeri's, Nikolic's, Alessandrini's of the world battle it out with the likes of Giovinco, Vela, Dos Santos', etc. with a sprinkle of elite level out of prime talent (with some juice in the tank) like the Henry's, Villa's, Ibra's, Keane's of the world.

    And I get to see it for an extremely reasonable price.
     
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    I know, I don't doubt it, and it's because you are knowledgeable enough to watch a 0-0 game and still see good things being done in the game. But to the "new fan" they are like ¨scoring chances and goals equals action"
     
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    Basement Cat Frank Drebin

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    No, you are right about that. Circa 2010 me was very concerned about getting the average casual sports fan to like soccer (and then specifically to support MLS which is another can of worms in and of itself). 2018 me couldn't care less. Just like 2010 me gave a lick about Devils attendance and couldn't stand barbs from our rivals. Now, whatever - I enjoy telling Rags/Flyers fans that they're the only people on Earth that brag about paying a higher price for less value. I guess that's just part of growing up.

    One thing that 2010 and 2018 me have in common...frustration with the Red Bulls' propensity for underwhelming in crucial home games.
     
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    Overheard some guys talking this morning in the caf saying a large group of Mexican fans jumped a bunch of people inside and out of the stadium .

    It's not a family friendly environment over there and they need to do something about it.
     
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    Well they don't play anymore Mexican teams this year. Done.
     
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    BenedictGomez Corsi is GROSSLY overrated

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    Simple; just call ICE.

    They'll each scatter like Carl Lewis in his prime.
     
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    yeah, I don't like where this thread is going.
     
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    Why do we even sign players like Kaku and Veron. Just save the money and put it in the academy if they aren't going to play.
     
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    Just those fans indulging in that homophobic gay bashing chant on the goal kicks alone completely validates your opinion to me.
     
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    OmNomNom Nico Nico Nii~~~

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    life as an everton support hurts :(

    **** our manager and terrible signings
     
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    So, just for fun, opinion on best player of all time?

    Maradona for me. Mostly because he had to protect the ball through tackles which are considered illegal today, and did so better than anybody, ever.
     
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    From the the players I've seen play in my lifetime it's Zidane. Love these players who are not only perfect technically but think the game better than anyone else in their generation.

    I'm too young to have seen Maradona or Pele play though.

    BTW it looks like me Bundesliga team Werder Bremen is saving my weekend right now.
     
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    dammit toronto :(
     
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    njdevil26 I hate avocados

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    Hey guys, if you're interested I had a chat with Andrew Vazzano on my podcast. He's the Digital/Social Media manager for the Red Bulls. He runs all of their social media accounts and produces short form video for the website/other. Pretty cool conversation:

    www.soundcloud.com/adrpodcast
     
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    What Liverpool is doing right now doesn't feel real.

    90 minutes to Kiev.
     
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    Where is the next World Cup?
     
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    Speaking on the implied generational gap that seems to exist in these discussions, for me it's gotta be Leo Messi.

    By the time Zidane's career as a player at Real ended, I still was very much ignorant to the European football scene. I didn't start following the Premiership and Champions League religiously until high school, which, for perspective, I attended from 2008 to 2012.

    Good ol' Fox Soccer Channel, watching Liverpool play the likes of Blackburn, Bolton, Wolves, and Blackpool.
     
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    Russia.

    2022? Qatar, apparently.

    2026 hopefully is the USA/Canada/Mexico as joint hosts. That bid is very much in full swing.
     
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    Russia, seriously?
     
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    kyle evs48 Devilish Boy Grin

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    FIFA is corrupt and thus corrupt countries are not precluded from hosting tournaments
     
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