HF Habs: Goldenhands top 31 for the upcoming draft (Final list)

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Im still unable to choose between Jiricek and Nemec. I dont buy the low upside on Nemecs part, but I recognize Jiriceks overall assertiveness.

Id have Jiricek 1st OA by a landslide if his edges were elite, but to me, theyre below average.

What made PK so effective was his edges where he coule just flat out fly and move 360° without losing speed. Jiricek doesnt have that, in fact, hell never have that. Nemec is good at walking the line and his 360° skating is a plus, but not elite.

Nemec is too damn passive though, but I remember Markov was pretty passive too and hes a f***ing legend.
100%. Even if jiricek has nemecs skating, I'd put him a no.1 without question. I was worried about nemecs scoring ability but he's been doing pretty well in the playoffs. Probably started shooting more. His passing game is better than Jiricek. I was worried if he could really be a PP qb at the point because of his lack of shot but he can shot it, just doesn't or didn't much. Another aspect I looked at when assessing both players is how they actually defend. While I absolutely enjoy Jiriceks aggressiveness offensively, it can get him in trouble in his own end. Nemec uses IQ, his stick, gap control, and his skating to defend with I much rather prefer, especially if his partner is gonna be the tank also known as Guhle
 

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1-David Jiricek RD

Huge physical defenseman with incredible athleticisms, skills, mobility and power. Jiricek is a beast of his own, he has an agrissive controlled approach of the game combined with a high IQ, what makes him incredibly difficult to face. His size/strength/reach/mobility and gap control gives his opponents no time and space at all and makes their life miserable. He is also excellent at reading and breaking plays displaying great anticipation. Offensively, he can generate offense multiple ways displaying great stickhandling and passing skills while his shooting arsenal is absolutely elite level.

Projection: Elite defenseman



2-Juraj Slafkovsky LW

Puck possession monster and physical specimen, Slafkovsky’s package is pretty unique. The way he generates power all over the ice coupled with some of the smoothest hands in the draft and great shooting skills easily makes him one of the most attractive players in the draft.

Projection: Top line power forward



3- Joakim Kemell RW

Best pure goalscorer in the draft. Kemell has a deadly wrister with quick release, great velocity/accuracy and his slapper/one timer violent and devastating. Furthermore, Kemell is a solid skater with high motor and solid puck skills, he plays with an edge, is pretty strong for his size and his game rather well rounded.

Projection: Top line scoring winger



4-Danila Yurov RW

A 18 years old kid in a man body, Yurov is a big, powerful skater with a long reach and some of the best puck skills in the draft. He is pretty hard to move off the puck, has very good playmaking and shooting skills and is a constant treath in the offensive zone. Combine that with a good IQ and some nice 200 ft. work and it gives you a very high potential forward.

Projection: Top line forward



5-Pavel Mintyukov RD

Pucks skills off the chart, just a brilliant and imprevisible puckhandler who uses his long reach and smooth hands to undress opponents and break defensive structures. Great skater who has the ability to switch gear and change his pace, what adds to the imprevisibility aspect of his game. Solid frame, strongly built, Mintyukov defends very well with a physical element to his game, closes gap quickly and is nearly impossible to beat one on one. Could be more aggressive and proactive at times in his own zone and needs to bring his “A” game more consistently. His tools are high end level and the potential sky high.

Projection: Top pairing defenseman and future PP quarterback.



6-Simon Nemec RD

Fast and dynamic skater who excels in transition, doesn’t miss an opportunity to jump in the play to support the attack, has sharp accurate passing skills, a high motor and the will to be a difference maker. His shot and defensive play are legit

Projection: Top pairing defenseman and future PP quarterback



7-Logan Cooley C

Electrifying center with high end dynamic skills. Cooley is a strong stickhandler with sly moves who can dangle through traffic and isn’t effraid to cut inside and take punishment to make plays. His motor is very high, competes at both ends of the ice and there is no glaring flaw in his game outside of an undersized frame, which shouldn’t be much of an issue in this case going forward.

Projection: Dynamic top 6 center



8-Marco Kasper C/LW

Strong powerful skater with high end IQ and motor. Great positional player with strong 200 ft. workload. Has a solid frame and uses it very well to protect pucks and work the board to his advantage. Kid is a very good stickhandler who makes the high % effective plays all the time. He is strong on pucks, plays the game with an edge and the way he generates offense should translate very well to the NHL.

Projection: top 6 versatile forward



9-Filip Mesar LW

Deceptively fast and talended, Mesar plays a high paced game and can make high level plays at top speed. He is pretty shifty, has great edges and his feet always moving. Kid can turn on a dime and change direction with baffling ease, what makes him highly imprevisible and tough to defend. Has a high compete and is highly combative.

Projection top 6 forward



10-Shane Wright C



Wright is a brilliant pucks distributor, uses his linemates extremely well, is aware of his options before the puck hits his stick going for the best passing option and then jump in the play looking for the open spots. His passing is the fundamental part of the way he generates offense. Kid is a good puckhandler, but doesn’t hold on the puck very long, will look for a pass as soon as he feels some pressure instead of varying his game such as challenging opponents one on one or using his frame to protect the puck ect., what at the end makes him expectable and rather boring to watch. Most of the time, he is just not driving the play. Has good skating agility and moves well laterally, but his unability to accelerate and generate enough straight line speed is also a legit concern since its impacting his pace and dynamism. His shot hasn’t been much of a treath this year, he struggled to beat goaltenders cleanly. There is also a notable lack of grit in his game and unwillingness to accept physical challenges. Needs to work on his skating and increase his motor, which one is way too low at the moment.

Projection Top 6 two-way center



11-Viktor Neuchev RW

Huge upside player. Neuchev is a fantastic skater with great hands and shooting skills. Competes hard, high motor and has that willingness to be a difference maker. Needs to keep on filling out.

Projection: Potential top 6 scoring forward.



12-Jonathan Lekkerimaki RW

Highly talended puckhandler with great offensive awarenesses and scoring skills, has that ability to find the open spots and fire pucks from danger areas. Has very good vision, passing skills and a quick deceptive release. Needs to get stronger and would benefit from adding an extra gear to his skating.

Projection: Top 6 pure offensively minded winger



13-Lian Bichsel LD

A force of nature, incredible physical tools coupled with excellent mobility. Excels at defending, a beast in his own zone, has an heavy shot and some raw tools. When you play this kid, you know you are going to do it through pain and punishment.

Projection: High end shut down defenseman



14-Cutter Gauthier LW

The prototype powerfoward of this draft. Has great size, strength, reach, soft hands and a devastating shot. Use his frame greatly to protect the puck and bring it to danger ereas. Needs to keep working on the quickness of his feet and pace.

Projection: top 6 power winger



15-Jiri Kulich C/LW

Might not be one of the most purely creative players in this draft, but still has some great tools, such as his shot, strong skating and good puck poise. His IQ and 200 ft. work are high level and projects easily as a future quality NHLer.

Projection: High quality versatile middle 6 forward.



16-Brad Lambert RW

Kid has some great tools, he is a strong skater with good size and good stickhandling skills, can make great plays at top speed and looks overall pretty dynamic. But has struggled a lot to produce in Liiga, changed teams twice and has some apparent off ice issues. Very good talent coming with some risks.

Projection: Potential top 6 forward



17- Gleb Trikozov RW

Great puckhandler with high end vision and playmaking. Good skater and pocesses great offensive awarenesses. Could be more proactive without the puck.

Projection: Potential top 6 foward



18-Cale Odelius LD

Smooth skating defenseman displaying a sharp accurate passing game, good puck skills, high IQ and a well rounded game.

Projection: Top 4 puckmoving defenseman



19-Isaac Howard LW

Very good skater with great edges and speed. Howard plays the game at a really high pace and proceed the game quickly, has very good offensive instincts and goalscoring abilities. Needs to work the boards better and avoid to precipitate plays under pressure.

Projection: Potential top 6 scoring winger



20-Frank Nazar C/RW

Creative puckhandler displaying great vision, above average IQ and offensive awarenesses. Needs to get stronger and more powerful.

Projection: Potential top 6 winger



21-Matthew Savoie RW

Fast dynamic skater with nice hands and shot. Plays the game with intensity but needs to play a better positional game and not the biggest frame out there.

Projection: Potential top 6 winger



22-Noah Ostlund C

Easily one of the fastest players in the draft, is phenomenal in transition and executes plays very quickly. On the very small side though and gets pushed around rather easily, what makes him harder to project at the NHL level.

Projection: Potential top 6 forward



23-Adam Sykora LW/RW

One of my favorites in the draft. Fiesty diminutive winger, but don’t let his undersized frame fool you, that little man plays big and is extremely strong. His motor is high end and his feet extremely quick. He is a beast on the forecheck and his game away from the puck flawless. Has quick hands and make plays in tight, works the boards extremely well, is pretty hard to knock off the puck, is excellent at cycling and keeping the play alive. He brings pucks to danger zones, has a good shot and a poison around the net. Similar playing style to T.J. Oshie.



Projection: Quality middle 6 winger



24-Nathan Gaucher C

Gaucher is a big power center with an heavy 200ft. game, who doesn’t miss an opportunity to throw his size around. Kid skates very well for a big boy, distributes pucks well enough and has a powerful shot.

Projection: High end shut down center



25-Conor Geekie C

Huge kid with sweet hands and playmaking abilities. Has good top speed once he gets going, but needs to improve his footwork/agility. Filling his frame will be his biggest challenge.

Projection: Potential 2nd line center.



26-Kevin Korchinski

Fluid, gracious skater, outstanding in transition, has great passing and stickhandling skills. Prone to blunder at times and his defensive game a work in progress.

Projection: Top 4 potential



27-Tristan Luneau RD

Smooth skating defenseman with good size and a well rounded game. Pretty stable, composed and balanced defenseman who does everything well, but nothing exceptional.

Projection: top 4 potential



28-Rudger Mcgroarty

Just a strong powerful kid with good skills and a great shot. Needs to keep working on his skating.

Projection: Middle 6 forward



29-Liam Ohgren LW

Has some nice tools, but nothing really standing out except above average passing skills.

Projection: Potential middle 6 winger



30-Denton Mateychuk LD

High risk, high reward undersized offensive minded defenseman. Does a lot of goods and some bads. Will need to get better defensively.

Projection: Top 4, PP quarterbacking potential



31-Jimmy Snuggerud RW

Good size/reach, skates well, good stickhandler, distributes pucks well. Snuggerud has some interesting tools.



Projection: Potential middle 6 forward



32-Ivan Miroshnichenko

Huge talent for the upcoming draft, we wish him good luck and a speedy recovery.
Clearly an anti-Canadian bias. Whatever weird dream you are having...you need to wake up, have a cup of coffee and join the real world where hockey is not the same as Disco Elysium
 
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Funnily I agree with several of his points about wright's weaknesses. Still hope we swing for the fences and get him, Cooley or slavs
 

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For me, the problem with Jiricek (pre injury) was his skating. You can sugar coat it all you want but he doesn't have a good stride, is mechanically weak and choppy, his speed is very average, and then you have to consider what the knee injury might have done to him. But let's just say, there's no problem with his recovery. The problem with his skating is still at the forefront. Seeing that HuGo has stressed skating, I don't think he's the guy for them

EXACTLY!

..and then OP then puts Wright at #10, because of skating... lolwat
 

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And that's fine. I also think Habs should take either jiricek or Nemec at 3. Personally I prefer Nemec, other Jiricek, but I have them ranked 3rd and 4th so it's not a big deal for me. But people saying jiricek should go no.1 are absolutely bonkers. Part of the reason I have jiricek ranked below Nemec is because I don't think he'll be close to the skater Nemec is. Even if he does improve, he probably will never be elite and that's a prerequite for being an elite D in today's NHL

This.

Also we already know our current GM strongly value skating and speed...

We're not picking Jiricek and I disagree with him being the best available player.
 
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Clearly an anti-Canadian bias. Whatever weird dream you are having...you need to wake up, have a cup of coffee and join the real world where hockey is not the same as Disco Elysium
1-Wright
2-Savoie
3-Gaucher
4-Geekie
5-Korchinski
6-Luneau
7-Mateychuk
8-Firkus
9-Pickering
10-Lindgren
11-Goyette
12-Nelson
13-Bech
14-Zhilkin
15-Hayes
16-Minten
17-Del Bel Belluz
18-Poitras
19-Brennan
20-McConnell-Barker
21-Kyrou
22-Gustafson
23- George
24-Ludwinski
25-Warren
26-Lamoureux
27-Seminoff
28-Sward
29-Buchinger
30-Mintyukov
31-Petrovsky
32-Sapovalev

Hopefully it makes you more happy.
Thats a very good draft for CHLers in term of depth as usual.
Justifying.. hmmm

Probably?

Not a big fan of Shane myself but I’d like to actually hear from the account holder himself
Since Ive been pretty hash on Wright this year, calling him Shane Wrong at some point, I felt the need to explain what bothers me in a more detailled fashon.
 

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1-Wright
2-Savoie
3-Gaucher
4-Geekie
5-Korchinski
6-Luneau
7-Mateychuk
8-Firkus
9-Pickering
10-Lindgren
11-Goyette
12-Nelson
13-Bech
14-Zhilkin
15-Hayes
16-Minten
17-Del Bel Belluz
18-Poitras
19-Brennan
20-McConnell-Barker
21-Kyrou
22-Gustafson
23- George
24-Ludwinski
25-Warren
26-Lamoureux
27-Seminoff
28-Sward
29-Buchinger
30-Mintyukov
31-Petrovsky
32-Sapovalev

Hopefully it makes you more happy.
Thats a very good draft for CHLers in term of depth as usual.

Since Ive been pretty hash on Wright this year, calling him Shane Wrong at some point, I felt the need to explain what bothers me in a more detailled fashon.
Lmao, that list you made in response to rob sense was hilarious. keep it up.
 
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NotProkofievian

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Skating overall is very important, not necessarily blinding speed but one of blinding speed or superior edges.

I think my rule is that if you can't skate very well, you need to have two compensating factors for it. This is the Jason Robertson rule. If you skate like a pregnant musk ox, you have to be big and offensively dominant.
 

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1-Wright
2-Savoie
3-Gaucher
4-Geekie
5-Korchinski
6-Luneau
7-Mateychuk
8-Firkus
9-Pickering
10-Lindgren
11-Goyette
12-Nelson
13-Bech
14-Zhilkin
15-Hayes
16-Minten
17-Del Bel Belluz
18-Poitras
19-Brennan
20-McConnell-Barker
21-Kyrou
22-Gustafson
23- George
24-Ludwinski
25-Warren
26-Lamoureux
27-Seminoff
28-Sward
29-Buchinger
30-Mintyukov
31-Petrovsky
32-Sapovalev

Hopefully it makes you more happy.
Thats a very good draft for CHLers in term of depth as usual.

Since Ive been pretty hash on Wright this year, calling him Shane Wrong at some point, I felt the need to explain what bothers me in a more detailled fashon.
Not a question of happiness. This is all speculation. You put forward a ridiculous list that looks like its coming from a Euro Fan Boy. Just keep it real and it will be all Wright!

Lmao, that list you made in response to rob sense was hilarious. keep it up.
it doesn't take much to get you going!
 

Schooner Guy

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Post your list
I'm not sure why he should be obligated to post a list. He's commenting on a somewhat unconventional order of rankings that someone created a thread out of. This is a message board afterall.

Besides maybe he doesn't have a list.
 
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I'm not sure why he should be obligated to post a list. He's commenting on a somewhat unconventional order of rankings that someone created a thread out of. This is a message board overall.

Besides maybe he doesn't have a list.

He should, I'm 100% with @covfefe on this one. Lambasting someone else's list without posting your own is dishonourable, and should commit one to a bat'leth fight. Or sepukku.
 

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I think my rule is that if you can't skate very well, you need to have two compensating factors for it. This is the Jason Robertson rule. If you skate like a pregnant musk ox, you have to be big and offensively dominant.
Robertson types are a good gamble later up, but its not for me. Especially not out of the CHL. How do you even project a guy like Robertson lmao, how does it work
 

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