Wow, you are easy to please. One conference final in 20 years and you are pleased. More of we fans should be like you......I think.
If Timmons is so great these past 12 years how come we haven't come close to winning a Cup during this period?
well. 1) drafting , 2) develop the player into and NHLer.
I believe there was a time not too long ago where the habs would have been able to mess up crosby had we drafted him. hardly timmins' fault.
if the team chemistry keeps being that great I wouldn't touch anything ... as long as we improve as the season goes on.
Not easy to please, but a realist. This isn't the Original 6 anymore. There's not going to be any dynasties anymore. It simply won't and can't happen. It should be our goal to win the Cup every year, but there is no shame in saying losing in the semi-finals was a successful season.
Finishing 4th out of 30 is pretty damned good I would say. We don't have it nearly as bad as fans of some NHL teams out there. Imagine if you were a kid growing up now and being a fan of the Columbus Blue Jackets, or the New York Islanders!
So far NO ONE has answered my question, but rather seem more concerned about my spelling. Was it too hard?
Are you saying Gainey made him draft players he preferred not to draft?
So, you feel the players drafted were fine, but not properly coached up.
Certainly a valid point to make. Being a tennis player , I'm not qualified to judge our coaches.
Timmins has done a very good job of drafting players who make it to the NHL. The problem is that most of them are marginal at best. Yes, he has chosen some winners but the biggest majority are the Chipchuras, Maxwells, Stewarts, D"Agostinis, Higgins' found in the NHL.
Average players with little impact.
I don't know how many time this has to be debunked.
Carey Price and Jaroslav Halak are NHL starters.
Mark Streit, McDonagh and PK Subban are all very important for their teams (with quite a few promising prospects waiting in the wings).
Grabovski, Sergei Kostitsyn and Pacioretty are--at the very least--good second liners.
Then you have Galchenyuk and Gallagher looking very good in the NHL and plenty of other prospects waiting for their chance.
That, on top of all the good depth players. Don't forget that he also didn't have very high picks to deal with, often drafting in the 20-30 range.
Not to be argumentative but I said impact players.
Price and Halak. Yes. Streit is solid but not an impact player. McDonagh and Subban are still too early to tell.
I like Pacioretty but again, not an impact player. Neither is Grabovski or Kostitsyn. They are good NHL players.
Galchenyuk and Gallagher have the potential to be the best picks made by Timmins. Galchenyuk was a no-brainer and Gallagher was a very nice pick.
The problem is that there are far too many players selected by Timmins who have gone nowhere or are just middle of the road NHL players.
What do you consider an impact player?
Subban has been a top pairing defenceman for the last 2 years. Streit has averaged 53.5 pts over the last 4 seasons and Pacioretty was top 10 in goals scored for LW last year.
Not to be argumentative but I said impact players.
Price and Halak. Yes. Streit is solid but not an impact player. McDonagh and Subban are still too early to tell.
I like Pacioretty but again, not an impact player. Neither is Grabovski or Kostitsyn. They are good NHL players.
Galchenyuk and Gallagher have the potential to be the best picks made by Timmins. Galchenyuk was a no-brainer and Gallagher was a very nice pick.
The problem is that there are far too many players selected by Timmins who have gone nowhere or are just middle of the road NHL players.
I guess we have a different definition of what an impact player is.
But if you are going to dismiss anyone drafted with a top-5 pick as a no-brainer, then you are taking away a lot of good players from head scouts' resume throughout the league. Don't you then think that Timmins compares pretty well with them?
Also, Galchenyuk was far from a no-brainer. He could've ended up 10th overall. The guy had played 8 unimpressive games before the draft (very understandable, coming back from injury). The injury was a worry. There was very little sample to base a scouting report on. Taking him 3rd overall could've backlashed big time.
Price, Halak, Mcdonagh, Subban, pacioretty are impact players.I think that Timmins has done a good job in Montreal.
Its just been too long since we won a Cup and he has had 10 years now.
I think that Timmins has done a good job in Montreal.
Its just been too long since we won a Cup and he has had 10 years now.
A lot of the assets he has acquired for the Canadiens have returned nothing because of bad, careless management.
There are players all over the league drafted by Timmins being good and useful for other teams, yet they returned nothing of value to us.
The Rangers have been able to acquire Rick Nash using mostly unproven assets, yet we got Scott Gomez out of Higgins and McDonagh. Sergei Kostitsyn, who is playing very well for the Predators, got us nothing. We gave up way too early on Benoit Pouliot (not that I cared myself), which we got in return from Latendresse, another asset that should've had much more value at *some* point in his tenure here in Montreal.
He's done a great job for where we've drafted. We've had two top five picks and the jury is still out on one... the other is great.Not to be argumentative but I said impact players.
Price and Halak. Yes. Streit is solid but not an impact player. McDonagh and Subban are still too early to tell.
I like Pacioretty but again, not an impact player. Neither is Grabovski or Kostitsyn. They are good NHL players.
Galchenyuk and Gallagher have the potential to be the best picks made by Timmins. Galchenyuk was a no-brainer and Gallagher was a very nice pick.
The problem is that there are far too many players selected by Timmins who have gone nowhere or are just middle of the road NHL players.
Trade dead wood for picks, but otherwise, keep the team as is, don't trade for rentals, keep the picks and prospects...