Not sure who you're referring too...I'm not quite sure where Bergevin ranks on this list.Amazing the credit MB gets for the trades he hasn't done...
Certainly not near the upper 1/3rd
And I don't really care to rate anyone past that.
So.....
Not sure who you're referring too...I'm not quite sure where Bergevin ranks on this list.Amazing the credit MB gets for the trades he hasn't done...
Not sure who you're referring too...I'm not quite sure where Bergevin ranks on this list.
Certainly not near the upper 1/3rd
And I don't really care rate anyone past that.
So.....
To me, there are a handful of GM's who I think are the best.Neither do I, I know Bergevin is bottom 5 though. That's all that matters to me
To me, there are a handful of GM's who I think are the best.
Yzerman, Poile, Kekalainen, Francis (big fan of he's building the Canes)...maybe 2 or 3 more i can't think of right now.
The rest are all part of the same group.
All capable of making good deals or bad ones but really have no sense of building a team
I'd say Bergevin is firmly entrenched in the latter group
A lot of truth in this statement.
A really dumb GM can really mess up a good scouts work though (I'm not saying Timmins is a really good scout, I think he was at one time, but that's a whole other topic.)
As far as rankings are concerned, every year there's a new hero crowned but it's hard to argue with what Yzerman has done in TB, Lamourello has gone a great job since joining the Leafs(myself and many others thought he was losing it in NJ...) Poile has put together a great team in NSH..
Good/Great GM:
Yzerman
Lamorello
Poile
Armstrong
Dorion
Rutherford
Kekalainen
To me there's a lot of average stuff in there, then you have your terrible GMs, which MB quite easily falls into.
You left Rutherford out of the top 10 ? Since 2000 went 4 times to the finals twice with Carolina 2002 winning 1 cup in 2006 and after getting to Pittsburgh in 2014 making those trades winning the cup 2 more times in 2016 and 2017Not sure who you're referring too...I'm not quite sure where Bergevin ranks on this list.
Certainly not near the upper 1/3rd
And I don't really care to rate anyone past that.
So.....
I'm not the biggest fan but certainly can't argue with those results...You left Rutherford out of the top 10 ? Since 2000 went 4 times to the finals twice with Carolina 2002 winning 1 cup in 2006 and after getting to Pittsburgh in 2014 making those trades winning the cup 2 more times in 2016 and 2017
Sorry was looking at wrong oneI'm not the biggest fan but certainly can't argue with those results...
I don't think I listed a too 10 for whatever it's worth
Still not right. Here, I'll fix it for both of you:Fixed it for you.
How has he lost it ?
Holland , Yzerman , Poile , Armstrong , Bowman , Lamoriello , Rutherford , B. Murray , How ever you want to rank them ? Then everyone else
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A lot of truth in this statement.
A really dumb GM can really mess up a good scouts work though (I'm not saying Timmins is a really good scout, I think he was at one time, but that's a whole other topic.)
As far as rankings are concerned, every year there's a new hero crowned but it's hard to argue with what Yzerman has done in TB, Lamourello has gone a great job since joining the Leafs(myself and many others thought he was losing it in NJ...) Poile has put together a great team in NSH..
Good/Great GM:
Yzerman
Lamorello
Poile
Armstrong
Dorion
Rutherford
Kekalainen
To me there's a lot of average stuff in there, then you have your terrible GMs, which MB quite easily falls into.