Management GM Pierre Dorion/Front Office Thread - Part VI
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Cole Sillinger made the team in Columbus. Looks to be centering Laine and Voracek, whilst Tyler Boucher will be grinding away in board battles in the NCAA. Just reminder that he isn’t even that good at the thing that everyone thinks he is some kind of savant at.
Exactly, why waste a top 10 pick on actual skilled players if you can pull off a genius reach of the decade on a low ceiling grinder instead. We've got too many skilled players as it, needed more agitators for sure.
I dunno. People made the same comments about Pinto, and were dead wrong.
Brady is another obvious example.
Some people even complained about Sanderson, Kleven, the list goes on. Many people what on every single pick over the last two drafts… Truly mystifying.
Now Boucher…
The one lesson I think should have been learned for sure by this point is to just wait and see how these picks pan out before running our mouths.
This scouting crew has been really good.
Brady is another obvious example.
Some people even complained about Sanderson, Kleven, the list goes on. Many people what on every single pick over the last two drafts… Truly mystifying.
Now Boucher…
The one lesson I think should have been learned for sure by this point is to just wait and see how these picks pan out before running our mouths.
This scouting crew has been really good.
Like I said on draft day, we drafted elite physicality with ok skill and passed up elite skill with ok physicality to do it.
I do think Sillinger will eventually find himself playing LW though, as that's probably where he fits better than up the middle.
The Boucher pick is similar to the Tkachuk pick in a lot of ways. One of them is that the selection being a "success" depends on the higher upside players drafted after him failing to translate their games to the NHL level.
Brady has proven to be a good pick not because he's showed some hidden upside that no one thought he had (he's proven to be the 50P powerforward we thought we'd be getting), but rather because the guys thought of as having higher upside on draft day have failed to live up to expectations. Zadina hasn't done much, Dobson looks like a top 4 D but not a #1 guy, Boqvist hasn't looked that great and Bouchard has yet to establish himself. Hughes is the only high-upside guy that was thought of as a potential pick at #4 that has met or exceeded expectations and could be argued was the better selection.
I'm pretty confident Boucher is going to be an NHLer and probably a good one too, but we probably left some upside on the board at 10. Could still turn out to be the "right pick" if the alternatives fail to meet their potential, but I'm skeptical.
bert
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Is this a serious post? They were drafted 2 months ago.
How are you watching Pinto and complaining about this right now. I thought your first post was satire but you were serious.
Meh tons of guys make it to the nhl right away and nothing happens
MDZ, Sbisa , Schenn made it before a guy like peiteranglo
I’m not saying Boucher will become better but let’s wait and see
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The way I see it, the Sens already have their 4 top 6 who will be 25-30 goal scorers and 50-65 point players in Batherson, Tkachuk, Brown and Norris.
They have 1 elite star scorer to be hopefully in Stutzle. And they need another elite scorer by another means - hopefully a good trade.
Adding another to the 4 good not great forwards in Sillinger shouldn't help push them to major contenders, but Boucher and Pinto set the plate for a dominant physical 3rd line that can win regular season games and change playoff series.
Yes we could use another good player now, but Sillinger would need to become great to fill a need if we hope to be contenders. And where would he slot long term as a center on this team?
They have 1 elite star scorer to be hopefully in Stutzle. And they need another elite scorer by another means - hopefully a good trade.
Adding another to the 4 good not great forwards in Sillinger shouldn't help push them to major contenders, but Boucher and Pinto set the plate for a dominant physical 3rd line that can win regular season games and change playoff series.
Yes we could use another good player now, but Sillinger would need to become great to fill a need if we hope to be contenders. And where would he slot long term as a center on this team?
bert
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Maybe you need to take your own advice before deciding if Boucher was a bad pick or not. There are plenty of things to complain about being a sens fan. Drafting isn't one if them.
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Lol what are you guys talking about. I just said Sillinger made the team
The Expert
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Drafting as a whole is the best thing about this organization.
Doesn't mean individual draft picks are above criticism.
The Expert
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No but completely passing judgment on a pick two months after the draft is silly and deserves to be called out. You criticized the Pinto pick on draft day and look how that turned out.
Yak
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PD had a crap off-season. Other then Dudanov for Holden, he has been asleep at the wheel.
Should have been on top of the Brady contract well before so it would be solved by now. Dude is a sleepy GM and a better scout.
Just like our owner he should own a AHL team owner not a NHL team owner.
Should have been on top of the Brady contract well before so it would be solved by now. Dude is a sleepy GM and a better scout.
Just like our owner he should own a AHL team owner not a NHL team owner.
Of course not, but criticizing picks made just months ago is kind of odd, and not really a good use of time.
No, when you post stupid shit you get called on it... You can keep pumping Silkinger's tires if you like and I'm sure guys like @bert will call you on it
You're going out of your way to paint a picture of incompetence and there's a lot of people that post here that are getting tired of that particular schtick
Repeat after me. The Boucher pick is not comparable to Tkachuk or Sanderson. Boucher was picked like 20 places ahead of where he was on bobs list and that’s hard to do at the top of the draft.
Taking Boucher above Sillinger was a huge misjudgement. If a player produces that well in so many different leagues and has good size and compete they are basically cant miss. Passing on Sillinger for Boucher is going to look worse than passing on Mantha for Lazar
Taking Boucher above Sillinger was a huge misjudgement. If a player produces that well in so many different leagues and has good size and compete they are basically cant miss. Passing on Sillinger for Boucher is going to look worse than passing on Mantha for Lazar
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