Confirmed with Link: Glass for Patrick - UPD: Howden from NYR

[Vegan Knight]

Nashville opened up 10.5 million in space and what money Seattle may pick.

I think there's some chance they are part of retention in a goalie trade with us. Or maybe just the actual trading partner to be finalized after the expansion draft.

 

[Nighthock]

Giving up too early on Glass, but Patrick is still young enough to develop into a good player up the middle. If he can stay healthy (big if) this will be a good one.

 

[theslatcher]

he's an rfa & is worth about 800-900k for a 1 year deal.
(though reports say he wants a decent contract)

His QO must be at a minimum 917,831.

 

[Pia8988]

What an absolutely terrible f***ing deal for Vegas.

 

[DudeWhereIsMakar]

To be fair, if Vegas had the first overall pick it would've 100% been Nolan Patrick.

 

[CupInSIX]

His QO must be at a minimum 917,831.

Didn't Philadelphia already qualify him? He didn't sign it, and Vegas can negotiate for what they think is fair(900k or less imo).

Even if Vegas has to qualify him & he takes it, 917k with no bonuses isn't much.

 

[azvgk]

Sounds like people hate this trade, I just think it's a nothing burger. Patrick was second selection in draft, so obviously he has talent I think Glass is going to be a bust. Probably neither will amount to much.

 

[Puckstop40]

Two pretty bad trades today.

 

[Puckstop40]

I hope the pastures are greener for Glass though. I did not see an NHL player. The only time I saw anything promising was him playing with Patches in pre season 2019. After that it seemed injuries took over and Gallant line juggling him.

I just hope Patrick is actually healthy enough to play. I bet we all hope Krebs pans out even more now.

 

[CupInSIX]

Nashville opened up 10.5 million in space and what money Seattle may pick.

I think there's some chance they are part of retention in a goalie trade with us. Or maybe just the actual trading partner to be finalized after the expansion draft.

with all that cap space, maybe they'll trade Glass for Eichel

 

[HanSolo]

Dope. At least beyond this one they can't make any bad decisions with Glass anymore. Good luck to him. Honestly hope he goes full Suzuki.

 

[Pia8988]

Dope. At least beyond this one they can't make any bad decisions with Glass anymore. Good luck to him. Honestly hope he goes full Suzuki.

Can't wait to see Patrick line up between Patches and Stone game 1.

 

[Super Cake]

So we keep Glass and trade Suzuki. Then we go ahead and trade Glass for a player that might be one bad hit away from never playing hockey again?

 

[hangman005]

So we keep Glass and trade Suzuki. Then we go ahead and trade Glass for a player that might be one bad hit away from never playing hockey again?

Our inability to develop players does not bode well for us..... or is it our supreme ability to give up on players at the slight drop of a hat. One of the two.

 

[Super Cake]

Our inability to develop players does not bode well for us..... or is it our supreme ability to give up on players at the slight drop of a hat. One of the two.

I feel like whenever this team becomes bad, it will get really bad.

just cannot keep on trading away our top prospects and not expect any consequences.

I have a bad feeling that Krebs is next on the list to be traded.

 

[Vegan Knight]

Our inability to develop players does not bode well for us..... or is it our supreme ability to give up on players at the slight drop of a hat. One of the two.

An owner who meddles in who stays or goes?

A GM who is unable to look anywhere for players than a province that's 3.6% of Canada's population?

I'm beginning to think we have some worries in the future of the team and our early success may be solely on our pro scouting department.

 

[Super Cake]

If Glass was never really given a chance to prove himself, will Patrick?

 

[Vegan Knight]

If Glass was never really given a chance to prove himself, will Patrick?

McCrimmon would fire DeBoer over this.

This isn't about what's best for the team, this is a GM pet project.

 

[Pia8988]

McCrimmon would fire DeBoer over this.

This isn't about what's best for the team, this is a GM pet project.

Patrick is only here because McCrimmon was the owner when Patrick won the memorial cup at 16. The problem is everything that has happened to Patrick since then. Patrick is starting 1c

 

[Haguerbomb]

Not having a journo with inside sources really, really sucks.

 

[Haguerbomb]

"Remember when the Golden Knights fell to No. 6 in the 2017 NHL entry draft lottery and selected Cody Glass in that spot. If they'd been at No. 2, they would have taken Nolan Patrick, because he'd played for Kelly McCrimmon's WHL team in Brandon>Now, the two are united again. Patrick needed a fresh start. Getting the chance to do it in Vegas seems like a perfect fit."

Would we have really taken him over Heiskanen, Makar or Pettersson?

 

[Vegas07]

Sounds like people hate this trade, I just think it's a nothing burger. Patrick was second selection in draft, so obviously he has talent I think Glass is going to be a bust. Probably neither will amount to much.

Yeah, and even if Glass succeeds somewhere else, it doesn’t mean he would have succeeded here. To me that would just confirm we did a horrible job trying to develop him (Did we try to develop him?).

 

[Brazen331]

"Remember when the Golden Knights fell to No. 6 in the 2017 NHL entry draft lottery and selected Cody Glass in that spot. If they'd been at No. 2, they would have taken Nolan Patrick, because he'd played for Kelly McCrimmon's WHL team in Brandon>Now, the two are united again. Patrick needed a fresh start. Getting the chance to do it in Vegas seems like a perfect fit."

Would we have really taken him over Heiskanen, Makar or Pettersson?

Yes. Pretty much everyone would have actually, even though they won’t admit it now.

Patrick was pretty much expected to go first OA, it was a bit of a shock he didn’t. If VGK has the 5th pick they would have gone Glass over Pettersson.

 

[Vegan Knight]

Yeah, and even if Glass succeeds somewhere else, it doesn’t mean he would have succeeded here. To me that would just confirm we did a horrible job trying to develop him (Did we try to develop him?).

It's still a bad trade on value alone. Patrick's injury concerns lower his value pretty significantly below Glass. It's bad use of assets. If you want to trade Glass and get Patrick you get something on top of it.

If you want Howden you get him for a seventh and not a fourth. If you want Tatar you get him for a second not a first, second and third.

We've had an abundance of assets because of the expansion draft and have squandered a lot in bad value trades regardless if we like the player or not.

 

[CupInSIX]

It's still a bad trade on value alone. Patrick's injury concerns lower his value pretty significantly below Glass. It's bad use of assets. If you want to trade Glass and get Patrick you get something on top of it.

If you want Howden you get him for a seventh and not a fourth. If you want Tatar you get him for a second not a first, second and third.

We've had an abundance of assets because of the expansion draft and have squandered a lot in bad value trades regardless if we like the player or not.

Patrick's hilights show some sick scoring hands (from 3 years ago) but every game I've watched of his, he looks like a bottom 6er that doesn't know how to protect himself.

Now that I think about it, I recall Patches running him over & the kid had to leave the game for a bit.

Maybe the time to move Glass was training camp when he looked slower than Reaves, considering they thought Stastny was too slow & Stephenson's speed was the answer to their prayers.